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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    Interesting concept, but who does she choose? From all that I have been hearing and reading about her, all of her admirerers seem to think she is the ONLY "non-corrupt, outside the beltway" politician! So she has to choose insiders which puts this idea back to square one.

    LOL. I said GOOD people. They are out there. We just don't know them yet. Which to me, would strengthen the fact that they are good people. They want to stay out of the limelight.

    She would not have to pick politicians either. In fact, I would hope she would not. A CLEAN sweep would be wonderful, eh?

    Fear of the unknown is not a good reason to avoid taking a chance. The only way to overcome your fear is to face it head on and kicks its bum. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    LOL. I said GOOD people. They are out there. We just don't know them yet. Which to me, would strengthen the fact that they are good people. They want to stay out of the limelight.

    She would not have to pick politicians either. In fact, I would hope she would not. A CLEAN sweep would be wonderful, eh?

    Fear of the unknown is not a good reason to avoid taking a chance. The only way to overcome your fear is to face it head on and kicks its bum. LOL
    A clean sweep would hardly be practical or possible unfortunately.

    So she chooses "good unknowns". Untried, inexperienced, unqualified - just like she is. Isn't that the very reason why the majority of the people don't feel that she is ready for this appointment? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to "take a chance" with my freedom and safety nor that of my children and grandchildren who will still be here long after I'm gone!!!

    This is a vicious circle - I'm getting dizzy!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    A clean sweep would hardly be practical or possible unfortunately.

    So she chooses "good unknowns". Untried, inexperienced, unqualified - just like she is. Isn't that the very reason why the majority of the people don't feel that she is ready for this appointment? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to "take a chance" with my freedom and safety nor that of my children and grandchildren who will still be here long after I'm gone!!!

    This is a vicious circle - I'm getting dizzy!!!!!
    Untried? Inexperienced? How do you know? Just because a person does not have GOVERNMENT experience does not mean they are not unqualified.

    Indeed, the founders never intended for there to be career politicians.

    What would you define as qualified? Just curious.

    As for taking a chance with your freedom and safety... You are only promised freedom here, not safety. And from what I read in this thread, I think we all have a varying definition of what freedom is. Further, what does the government have to do with your safety? Physical and Fiscal security should be the responsibility of the individual. IMHO, of course.

    An interesting read.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1220...n_commentaries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Further, what does the government have to do with your safety?
    I am SHOCKED that you said that!!!!! If that's the case, then why the h3ll are troops in Iraq and dying over there every day?? Why did they get sent there in the first place? Have you forgotten about 911 already? Didn't the thousands of people that died a horrific death think that they were "safe"? Isn't it the aim of our government to protect this country and those that live here from any invasion by those out to destroy our freedom and safety? And 911 is only a single example! How many others are there??? - I couldn't even begin to count them!

    Qualified?? - "competent and fitted as by training or experience". Plain and simple.

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    I'm sure John McCain is basically a nice person; as is Sarah Palin.

    The big problem I have with this ticket - they are endorsed by the current occupant of the White House. That is enough to drive me, and many of my friends, in another direction - any direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    This is the candidate my husband would like to win -
    Ron Paul
    Most of the people in my family supported Ron Paul and I liked a lot of what he said. I just received this link from my brother, probably RP's biggest supporter. It's a shame that he has had to hold his own convention as opposed to having a say at the Republican Convention.

    http://news.aol.com/elections/conven...596x1200508518

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    I have been reading with interest since this post started. Thank you for the insight and entertainment.

    I've decided that I love my pets the most. And I am a Republlican. I try to be open minded, but when it comes down to it, I am a Republican. Period. I know some of you are not surprised by that statement. LOL!!! I will always vote for the person, not the party. I even voted for Ernest Hollings in one SC Senate Race, so don't give up on me.

    In the meantime, I will enjoy watching how this plays out. Economiically, I was probably more prosperous in my business life when Bill Clinton was in office than any other time in my adult life, up until this year. The Democrats have always been more favorable towards small business, especially the Small Business Administration, which is where I make my living, than Republicans. We'll see how this all pans out. I am keeping an open mind, but I do know that at heart, where my values are concentrated, I am a Republican.

    Have fun and play nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    I am SHOCKED that you said that!!!!! If that's the case, then why the h3ll are troops in Iraq and dying over there every day?? Why did they get sent there in the first place? Have you forgotten about 911 already? Didn't the thousands of people that died a horrific death think that they were "safe"? Isn't it the aim of our government to protect this country and those that live here from any invasion by those out to destroy our freedom and safety? And 911 is only a single example! How many others are there??? - I couldn't even begin to count them!
    I misunderstood you, sorry. On that scale, certainly the government has a role. I thought your were talking about individual personal safety.

    I have more to add, but I am short on time.

    Qualified?? - "competent and fitted as by training or experience". Plain and simple.
    That is still a relative thing. Can you be specific as to what a person must have/done/be for them to be qualified in your eyes?
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    I've only skimmed through this thread, so be patient if I'm repeating someone. I think the VP search team was told to find a very conservative evolutionist Christian. Also, doesn't hurt if there are some ovarys included.


    First, yes, shades of Eagleton, as long as McCain doesn't back her "1000%", she might have a chance.

    Second, sorry Murphy Brown, but it appears that Dan Quayle was right afterall.

    If McCain keeps her through September I'll be surprised.

    One of my favorite parts so far (this stuff is great, you couldn't make it up if you wrote for Northern Exposure), is with the abuse of power scandel (which isn't at all funny btw) which includes the allegations about the ex-brother in law which include "illegally shooting a moose".

    These are not the droids you were looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    I misunderstood you, sorry. On that scale, certainly the government has a role. I thought your were talking about individual personal safety.

    I have more to add, but I am short on time.



    That is still a relative thing. Can you be specific as to what a person must have/done/be for them to be qualified in your eyes?

    I don't know why you would think I was referring to my own personal safety, since this whole topic has been government - it's potential leaders - their ability/inability to govern, etc. I was making reference to the nation as a whole. I felt that was the issue - not me, me, and me.

    Qualified? - I suppose I could go on and on, but I'm sure you're looking for specifics to pick apart and misconstrue. It's not my desire to make this thread a debate between the two of us, and I'm sure no one else really wants that either.

    Yeah - I think I know exactly what you're thinking, but please don't even go there. NRN (no response necessary)

    p.s.
    And I am no big fan of Obama either. I just happen to think that all things considered, he is the lesser of the 2 evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosethecopycat View Post
    Some people need to go ahead and read some Ayn Rand.
    You know, It's not nice to suggest reading material without giving people a starting point.


    The Fountainhead? Atlas Shrugged? We the Living?

    I'll dig out my copies start my assignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    You know, It's not nice to suggest reading material without giving people a starting point.


    The Fountainhead? Atlas Shrugged? We the Living?

    I'll dig out my copies start my assignment.
    Atlas Shrugged hits more of the topic points discussed here, but a better starting point is Fountainhead.

    From Idiocracy to Ayn Rand, I'm there with you R.

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    Hubby had an interesting thought last night. He said McCain should have picked Colin Powell as his running mate. If McCain is looking to capture the female vote with SP maybe he could try and steal away some black votes from Obama. Honestly, it is strange to even contemplate how these men come up with their selections. I am sure that Colin Powell has had enough of the political scene. Maybe he was asked and turn it down anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam View Post
    Hubby had an interesting thought last night. He said McCain should have picked Colin Powell as his running mate. If McCain is looking to capture the female vote with SP maybe he could try and steal away some black votes from Obama. Honestly, it is strange to even contemplate how these men come up with their selections. I am sure that Colin Powell has had enough of the political scene. Maybe he was asked and turn it down anyway.
    Better yet condoleeza rice I think she would have been a great pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    I don't know why you would think I was referring to my own personal safety, since this whole topic has been government - it's potential leaders - their ability/inability to govern, etc. I was making reference to the nation as a whole. I felt that was the issue - not me, me, and me.
    I wrote the first responce in a hurry. Did not read it well or think it through. Sorry.

    Palin - Little to no foreign policy experience. Bottom of ticket. But she will have good people around her. She will learn. Also, she has not said, at least that I have seen, anything about what her foreign policy might be like.

    Obama - Little to no foreign policy experience. Top of ticket. But her will have some decent people around him. So he will learn. However, Obama HAS defined what some of his foreign policy might be like and it worries me a little. He plans to try to negotiate with countries like Iran. As long as Iran is ruled by people who prefer a system of government that is suited to the 8th century... His foreign policy just comes off as a little naive to me.

    What is worse?


    Qualified? - I suppose I could go on and on, but I'm sure you're looking for specifics to pick apart and misconstrue. It's not my desire to make this thread a debate between the two of us, and I'm sure no one else really wants that either.
    I am sorry that I have made you feel this way. I really am not looking to pick apart or misconstrue anything you might have to say here.


    Yeah - I think I know exactly what you're thinking, but please don't even go there. NRN (no response necessary)

    p.s.
    And I am no big fan of Obama either. I just happen to think that all things considered, he is the lesser of the 2 evils.
    I think that what you were thinking I was thinking is wrong. (Say THAT 3 times fast, LOL)

    The Puckstop31 that started this thread is gone. I made my apology for saying some boneheaded things earlier. FWIW, I am enjoying this back and forth with you and the others. This election is going to be an important one and it is good for We The People to talk about it.
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