McCain/Palin ???

[Puckstop31]

I am SHOCKED that you said that!!!!! If that's the case, then why the h3ll are troops in Iraq and dying over there every day?? Why did they get sent there in the first place? Have you forgotten about 911 already? Didn't the thousands of people that died a horrific death think that they were "safe"? Isn't it the aim of our government to protect this country and those that live here from any invasion by those out to destroy our freedom and safety? And 911 is only a single example! How many others are there??? - I couldn't even begin to count them!

I misunderstood you, sorry. On that scale, certainly the government has a role. I thought your were talking about individual personal safety.

I have more to add, but I am short on time.

Qualified?? - "competent and fitted as by training or experience". Plain and simple.

That is still a relative thing. Can you be specific as to what a person must have/done/be for them to be qualified in your eyes?

[catland]

I've only skimmed through this thread, so be patient if I'm repeating someone. I think the VP search team was told to find a very conservative evolutionist Christian. Also, doesn't hurt if there are some ovarys included.


First, yes, shades of Eagleton, as long as McCain doesn't back her "1000%", she might have a chance.

Second, sorry Murphy Brown, but it appears that Dan Quayle was right afterall.

If McCain keeps her through September I'll be surprised.

One of my favorite parts so far (this stuff is great, you couldn't make it up if you wrote for Northern Exposure), is with the abuse of power scandel (which isn't at all funny btw) which includes the allegations about the ex-brother in law which include "illegally shooting a moose".

[pomtzu]

I misunderstood you, sorry. On that scale, certainly the government has a role. I thought your were talking about individual personal safety.

I have more to add, but I am short on time.



That is still a relative thing. Can you be specific as to what a person must have/done/be for them to be qualified in your eyes?

I don't know why you would think I was referring to my own personal safety, since this whole topic has been government - it's potential leaders - their ability/inability to govern, etc. I was making reference to the nation as a whole. I felt that was the issue - not me, me, and me.

Qualified? - I suppose I could go on and on, but I'm sure you're looking for specifics to pick apart and misconstrue. It's not my desire to make this thread a debate between the two of us, and I'm sure no one else really wants that either.

Yeah - I think I know exactly what you're thinking, but please don't even go there. NRN (no response necessary)

p.s.
And I am no big fan of Obama either. I just happen to think that all things considered, he is the lesser of the 2 evils.

[Puckstop31]

I don't know why you would think I was referring to my own personal safety, since this whole topic has been government - it's potential leaders - their ability/inability to govern, etc. I was making reference to the nation as a whole. I felt that was the issue - not me, me, and me.

I wrote the first responce in a hurry. Did not read it well or think it through. Sorry.

Palin - Little to no foreign policy experience. Bottom of ticket. But she will have good people around her. She will learn. Also, she has not said, at least that I have seen, anything about what her foreign policy might be like.

Obama - Little to no foreign policy experience. Top of ticket. But her will have some decent people around him. So he will learn. However, Obama HAS defined what some of his foreign policy might be like and it worries me a little. He plans to try to negotiate with countries like Iran. As long as Iran is ruled by people who prefer a system of government that is suited to the 8th century... His foreign policy just comes off as a little naive to me.

What is worse?

Qualified? - I suppose I could go on and on, but I'm sure you're looking for specifics to pick apart and misconstrue. It's not my desire to make this thread a debate between the two of us, and I'm sure no one else really wants that either.

I am sorry that I have made you feel this way. I really am not looking to pick apart or misconstrue anything you might have to say here.

Yeah - I think I know exactly what you're thinking, but please don't even go there. NRN (no response necessary)

p.s.
And I am no big fan of Obama either. I just happen to think that all things considered, he is the lesser of the 2 evils.

I think that what you were thinking I was thinking is wrong. (Say THAT 3 times fast, LOL)

The Puckstop31 that started this thread is gone. I made my apology for saying some boneheaded things earlier. FWIW, I am enjoying this back and forth with you and the others. This election is going to be an important one and it is good for We The People to talk about it.

[Pam]

The Puckstop31 that started this thread is gone. I made my apology for saying some boneheaded things earlier. FWIW, I am enjoying this back and forth with you and the others. This election is going to be an important one and it is good for We The People to talk about it.

It takes a big man to write that. I too owe you an apology. I think Gov. Palin has changed many minds tonight and you were one of the early ones to adopt a wait and see attitude. CNN said she "hit it out of the park" tonight and I have to agree. We'll have to see how this thing plays out. Never a dull moment with this election.

[Puckstop31]

Thanks Pam. Now, PM Edwinas Secretary and all the others who put me on their ignore list. Tell them to take me off so we can have honest discussion. LOL My passion gets the best of me at times.


I don't know if she hit it out of the park... But it was a stand up triple for sure. I only wish she would have told us more about her self and talked LESS about BO. Personally, if you watched this speech with an open mind, the issue of who is more experienced has been put to bed. Also, I need to dig a little more on BO's voting record. 130 "Present" votes while in the Illinois Legislature? Hmmmmmmm..... Can he really handle the "3am call" on his own??? What really qualifies him to lead? What has he lead? What is his definition of leadership?

I want to sleep on it and digest it a bit more... Can't wait to get back at it tomorrow.

G'night. LOL

[sparks19]

I must say I really enjoyed listening to her speak.

I too wish it was less about Obama... the whole night not just her. I really liked the part when Rudy said about how it was unbelievable that her abilities as a mother and whether or not she would have time to take care of 5 children if she got the VP. NEVER have they EVER or WOULD they ever ask a man that. couldn't that be said about any candidate with children who aren't adults already? Seems a little biased and borderline sexist. She has a husband and I'm sure he's very capable of taking care of the children too. I know my husband can be totally trusted with our daughter and I would feel comfortable if him and I switched "jobs" and he became a stay at home dad and I went to work.

But I think I have TWO favourite parts. One is funny and the other serious. First of all I loved how she talked about how she said "no thank you" to congress when they wanted to fund the bridge building and said that if they wanted that bridge they would build it themselves. I am REALLY on board with "the American people can do it without government" idea. the funny one... I loved the hockey mom joke lol. "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick" LOL wonderful and very true. I am not a hockey mom... YET. but I am a hockey aunt, a hockey sister, a hockey wife and just an all around hockey fan and THAT is true lol. We are sweet and cuddly most of the time... but mess with one of our own and you are dead meat LOL.

[shais_mom]

I normally stay outta the dog house but in order to educate myself I read this thread in its entireity. I'm not sure I'm more educated or not.
I think that its going to be a tough call.
I'm not entirely sure some areas of this country are ready to welcome an African American man (qualified or not) as President. Those same areas of the country probably aren't ready to see a woman as VP either.
Her family's decisions and life choices just like the other canidates shouldn't be brought to the table. There isn't a parent of a teenager out there that agrees with all of the decisions their kids make. There are several parents on this board alone that I can name that would DISagree with their kids decisions. Mrs. Palin is no different.
A lot of areas I agree with her - a lot I don't - just like everyone else - there isn't one candidate that I would agree with completely I'm sure. But I'm sure a LOT of people are going to relate to Mrs. Palin with a child in Iraq, a pregnant teenager and a baby with Down's Syndrome. right or wrong - I think that is going to be the way it is.

[lizbud]

A lot of areas I agree with her - a lot I don't - just like everyone else - there isn't one candidate that I would agree with completely I'm sure. But I'm sure a LOT of people are going to relate to Mrs. Palin with a child in Iraq, a pregnant teenager and a baby with Down's Syndrome. right or wrong - I think that is going to be the way it is.

Sen Biden's son Beau is a Captain in the Delaware National Guard and
his unit has been called up. He leaves for Iraq in October. I'm pretty sure
Biden could make a big deal out of this by speaking publicly about his son
and Military service, but he doesn't.

[Jessika]

I think too many people are concerned with electing the "lesser of two evils". That isn't how it should be!! We have the ability to write down anyone on the ballot, we don't HAVE to vote for Obama, or McCain, heck you could write in Mickey Mouse's name on the ballot if you wanted to! If you think it comes down to voting for the lesser of two evils, or voting for someone only because you don't want the other person in office, then look around at other politicians, who DO you agree with? Write them in, do something!

I personally am NOT a fan of Obama, and I'm really not a big fan of McCain either, but I really like Palin.

[pomtzu]

I wrote the first responce in a hurry. Did not read it well or think it through. Sorry.



The Puckstop31 that started this thread is gone. I made my apology for saying some boneheaded things earlier. FWIW, I am enjoying this back and forth with you and the others. This election is going to be an important one and it is good for We The People to talk about it.

Thank you, but an apology wasn't expected or necessary. Afterall - this is the Dog House! I guess maybe you're not as big a jerk as I thought you were afterall!!! LOL

It's just that you struck a nerve on the issue of government and security, and of course 9/11 is a prime example. The images of that day are burned forever in my mind and I'll never be able to get rid of them. I pray that no one will ever have to experience anything like that again.

As to those that pointed out our liberty to "write in" a candidate rather than choose the lesser of 2 evils - that's like flushing good money down the toilet - IMO of course. I hardly think my write in for Kinky Friedman will change the overall outcome of the election!!!