Child killer smiles as he hears sentence

[Hellow]

I think that someone should wipe that evil smile off his face with a hammer, just as he wiped 4 innocent people off the earth with one.

[Hellow]

shepgirl, I didn't think for a moment you were trying to defend this guy at all...nobody does. But I gotta wonder - there are kids who go through divorces and having step-family and turn out FINE.

I am just postulating that sometimes people are born with a piece missing - like an arm, or part of a brain chemical or something - and nothing nohow seems to be able to change that. Good parenting may put off the inevitable - bad parenting might accelerate it.

Sometimes nothing external seems to help.

Some people need to be intelligent enough to see this in their mind and put a stop to it mentally, before it turns into the end effect.

[Karen]

I am not going to defend this man at all. I just want to point out that that photo of him smiling was in use in the media days before he was sentenced.

He may have had the same expression on his face, but just wanted to point that out.

He is just another example of animal abusers becoming human predators, and why animal abuse should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law every single time.

[Catty1]

Karen, thanks. I pointed out a couple of times that that "smile" was from a picture that had Joe responding to another person. NOTHING to do with the sentencing.

Reggie - a person's intelligence has nothing to do with whether they can fix themselves or not.

It's like intelligent people being able to cure their own cancer. It doesn't happen that way. Brain chemistry is physical, physiological.

I have a B.A., made the Dean's list one year, have travelled several countries as a musician, recorded a CD with my own songs on it - and am on two medications for life because my brain chemistry needs help to keep me centred.

Brains ain't got nothing to do with it.

[shepgirl]

Catty1 - you've just more or less made the point I was trying to make...you said you are onb meds for life because of a brain chemistry problem. That's exactly what I was trying to explain. There are meds out there to help any brain chemistry abnormality. What I'm trying to explain is that parents who just shove off their kids with a scuff to the head or face when something is amiss is not going to help those kids. We had neighbors where the mother sat in front of the boob tube all day and watched soaps...guess who'd kids were always getting into trouble at school for lack of parental attention? If the parents don't care enough to put the kids first and foremost then don't have kids...simple.

[Catty1]

True, shepgirl - there ARE meds...I guess we were agreeing all the way along LOL.

But there are some illnesses for which meds aren't yet available.

"clinically diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder in 1980" This is from Wikipedia - and I don't know that there are successful treatments for that. I wonder if they TRIED to treat him?

On his blog in 2005, he says that 'some high priced shrink' diagnosed him as transsexual. So he did have contact with the psychiatric community.

There are some diseases of all kinds that can't be cured yet. Even me, being on lifelong meds - that isn't a cure, any more than insulin is for a person with diabetes.

Some day soon...I hope full treatment and health care will be available to all who need it.

[shepgirl]

Yes sir...we've been agreeing all along Catty. Just not that good at expressing myself I guess. Hope someday you'll be able to look back and toss your meds away....

[Catty1]

sg - I appreciate the thought - really, I do.

BUT - LOL - a bit ot - shepgirl, I tossed my anti-depressant meds many times over the decades, figuring the right vitamins/faith/etc (lots of etc!) would do it.

I hit the bloody wall every single time...I would be ok for a little bit, and then BANG! Like slamming into a cinder block wall gut first.

I am 52...and three years ago, I finally decided to stop arguing. Raised the white flag...and can live better in my own head again, and people around me don't have to wonder when I am going to snap, or why I am so 'flat' and leaden in personality.

Just to repeat what I posted to Reggie a few posts back:

Reggie - a person's intelligence has nothing to do with whether they can fix themselves or not.

It's like intelligent people being able to cure their own cancer. It doesn't happen that way. Brain chemistry is physical, physiological.

I have a B.A., made the Dean's list one year, have travelled several countries as a musician, recorded a CD with my own songs on it - and am on two medications for life because my brain chemistry needs help to keep me centred.

Brains ain't got nothing to do with it.

It's like diabetes of the brain...it doesn't show physical symptoms like Parkinson's. But that horrid disease is due to brain chemistry as well. A patient with Parkinson's would not dream of looking back and tossing their meds. It's the same thing. Really.

[Catty1]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nslayings.html

Next sentencing hearing delayed for killer Duncan

Convicted child killer Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death last month for the 2005 kidnapping, sexual abuse and murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene.
BOISE, Idaho —

Convicted child killer Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death last month for the 2005 kidnapping, sexual abuse and murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene.

But he has yet to be sentenced on seven other federal charges related to aspects of his crimes against Dylan and Dylan's sister, Shasta Groene.

He faces up to life in prison kidnapping, and two counts of aggravated sexual abuse of a minor. He faces a sentence of up to 10 years in prison for being a felon in possession of a firearm, transporting a stolen firearm, possessing an unregistered firearm and transporting a stolen vehicle.

U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge originally scheduled the sentencing date for Oct. 15, but postponed it until Nov. 3 to accommodate the schedules of the attorneys involved in the case.

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