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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Why does not agreeing with someone mean I don't understand something? I am reasonably intelligent, and have an ability to comprehend- even if I don't support- someone's opinion.

    I am a HUGE breastfeeding advocate. Does that mean everyone that doesn't support MY position is ignorant about the benefits of breastfeeding? That they are wrong, or, a bad parent if they don't follow a child-led approach to weaning? No, it means they don't support my position, that they feel differently.

    I don't like guns (as much as one can affix a human emotion to an inanimate object). I don't agree with hunting, I don't agree with carrying a weapon, I don't agree with your interpretation of the 2nd amendment...that doesn't mean I don't understand, though.
    Fair nuff'. I see your point. So, I suppose you do not have to agree with those things. Just understand that I am a HUGE advocate of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. When you really research it, the intent of the Founders was and is crystal clear.

    So, while it is perfectly fine for you to feel the way you do, the 2nd Amendment IS the law of the land. And, as the recent Supreme Court decision has said, it is a individual right. So, I would prefer if you not try to impose your will upon we law abiding gun owners. Just as I strive to live my life in a way where I do not impose my will on you.

    Instead of gun control.... How about we focus on CRIMINAL control?

    We could get into hunting and how controlled hunting is actually a good way to keep animal populations healthy... Or how hunting groups do more to preserve habitat and maintain healthy animal populations than PETA or the USHS could ever dream of... I am sure that is WAY outside of the scope of this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    So, while it is perfectly fine for you to feel the way you do, the 2nd Amendment IS the law of the land. And, as the recent Supreme Court decision has said, it is a individual right. So, I would prefer if you not try to impose your will upon we law abiding gun owners. Just as I strive to live my life in a way where I do not impose my will on you.
    It is the law of the land...and there has been, in the past, other laws that were challenged and sucessfully overturned because of people with differing opinions.

    So, while I will respect your will, I cannot agree to not challenge the law, your will, my neighbor's will, etc, by voicing my opposing opinion.

    A lemming I am not. And, I recognize that about you, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    It is the law of the land...and there has been, in the past, other laws that were challenged and sucessfully overturned because of people with differing opinions.

    So, while I will respect your will, I cannot agree to not challenge the law, your will, my neighbor's will, etc, by voicing my opposing opinion.

    A lemming I am not. And, I recognize that about you, too.


    I would almost welcome an attempt to "repeal" the 2nd Amendment. Perhaps we could, once and for all, be done with it. One way or the other...

    I say this because there are simply WAY too many gun owners who would not stand for it. It would quite literally, IMHO, spark another revolution/civil war.

    As a side note, I would like to thank you for keeping this civil. Most of the time when I debate this topic, it gets ugly and I get called names. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    As a side note, I would like to thank you for keeping this civil. Most of the time when I debate this topic, it gets ugly and I get called names. LOL
    The only name I can think to call you is "Annie" as in "Annie get your gun".

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    I am really tempted to deep-six this thread...mainly because it is starting an internet WWIII among people I think of as friends.
    Last edited by smokey the elder; 07-31-2008 at 02:55 PM. Reason: more drivel
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey the elder View Post
    I am really tempted to deep-six this thread...mainly because it is starting an internet WWIII among people I think of as friends.
    Do you know the origin of that phrase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey the elder View Post
    I am really tempted to deep-six this thread...mainly because it is starting an internet WWIII among people I think of as friends.
    Interesting - I don't get that impression at all. I think it's quite civil - so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    The only name I can think to call you is "Annie" as in "Annie get your gun".
    OMG lmao

    sorry I know my post has no point but I really had to chuckle at that.

    When he walks through the door tonight I think that is going to be the first phrase to come to mind. lol




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    EXCEPT FOR TRACERS WHICH ARE NORMALLY MILITARY USE ONLY.
    I think you need to apologize-You are incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    I think you need to apologize-You are incorrect.

    There is a light blue Mercury Tracer parked in the driveway at this moment. It was driven privately for years.
    LOL you're so special Richard




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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    As a side note, I would like to thank you for keeping this civil. Most of the time when I debate this topic, it gets ugly and I get called names. LOL
    I have to agree, I think that was one of the most interesting and civil debates I have seen on this board. Well done, both of you.

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