Unitarian church shootings

[Edwina's Secretary]

Unlike you, Sara, I wasn't questioning whether or not it was started by target shooting (If someone who does something for a living states what they believe as fact, I tend to believe it, unlike you) I was questioning how they linked it to target shooting. Unlike some who take the MSM at face value, I'd like to see something a little more in depth before I take it as gospel.

The only thing in any of the reports about the yosemite fires I found on the web was a single sentence stating that they had traced the fire to target shooting. In the thousands of rounds I've sent downrange, and the millions of rounds I've been responsible for going downrange, the only fires I've ever seen started were from tracers, which are normally military use only.I've never seen a range fire started by Bubba with his shotgun.

I don't understand your first paragraph. (And I also don't think you are being truthful.) I believe the fire inspectors. You questioned it, I didn't. Perhaps, just perhaps, as I live in California, it is covered more extensively here?

How many rounds have you shot downhill in California, during high fire danger and during an epic drought? I live on the edge of Camp Pendleton and I can tell you there are frequent brush fires there from target practice.

So, if it had never happened to you, you don't believe it. If you have never seen it, it doesn't happen. Got it.

p.s. What is MSM????

[Grace]

p.s. What is MSM????

I do believe that is Main Stream Media.

[K9soul]

I tend to see points to both sides of the gun arguments.. But I think a lot of the problem lies in how much more violent and unstable people seem to be. I know some of it could be a case of we see it more because it's reported more, but it just seems to me there are a lot of people snapping and going on rampages these days compared to when I was younger. We could take squirt guns to school and no one would think anything of it. Now it can have serious repercussions.

This article I just saw tonight doesn't involve a gun but is just as shocking, if not more to me. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3896502

[sparks19]

I tend to see points to both sides of the gun arguments.. But I think a lot of the problem lies in how much more violent and unstable people seem to be. I know some of it could be a case of we see it more because it's reported more, but it just seems to me there are a lot of people snapping and going on rampages these days compared to when I was younger. We could take squirt guns to school and no one would think anything of it. Now it can have serious repercussions.

This article I just saw tonight doesn't involve a gun but is just as shocking, if not more to me. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3896502

OMG

that is just ... disturbing.

What makes KIDS do things like that and over a girl?

I don't care how young they are they are very very sick and I hope they spend the rest of their lives confined.

WOW

[Lady's Human]

How many rounds have you shot downhill in California, during high fire danger and during an epic drought? I live on the edge of Camp Pendleton and I can tell you there are frequent brush fires there from target practice.

I don't do long distance reading comprehension instruction, Sara.

As I said in my other post, I have never seen target shooting start fires EXCEPT FOR TRACERS WHICH ARE NORMALLY MILITARY USE ONLY.

[cassiesmom]

I must admit I don't know what the Unitarian Universalist church beliefs are. But I heard on the news that there was a Presbyterian church right next to the one where the shootings took place. The reporter said it was unclear why the shooter specifically went into the UU church. The gun was brought into the church in a guitar case.

Gun violence bothers me for a lot of reasons. I'm a rehab nurse and I've cared for people with head injuries caused by bullets (shot by themselves or others). Trauma care is much better, so more people are surviving and having to deal with the life consequences of brain injury. More than 20 Chicago high school students were killed by shootings during the 2007-08 school year. You should not have to be afraid of being shot at when you go to church. I don't know what the answer is - more police and the Illinois National Guard on the streets? We might be heading toward a police state situation if that were done. More opportunities for youth programs, education and vocational training to get kids off of the streets and out of gangs? I think that would be great. However, our governor has reduced state funding for such programs and Mayor Daley has deferred releasing his proposed budget for the city of Chicago, so I think public monies for these types of services are going to be less available in the future. More drug enforcement? I don't think it is a problem with an easy or quick answer.

[RICHARD]

How many rounds have you shot downhill in California, during high fire danger and during an epic drought? I live on the edge of Camp Pendleton and I can tell you there are frequent brush fires there from target practice.

Camp Pendleton has their own fire department (Marines) and the ranges are in isolated areas that have many firebreaks around the perimeter.

I have been in many areas -Texas Canyon, San Fransiquito Canyon and some areas in the Angeles Nat'l. Forest when shooting was legal. My dad's club used to hold many shooting competitions where there were 20-30 guys shooting thousands of rounds and never ran into any problems with fires.

IN all the years that I have live out here in Cah Lee Fun Nee Ah that is the second time I have heard of a fire being started by a shooter. Usually the AHs get lost and light a FOREST FIRE so they can be seen.

The comps were held in all kinds of conditions and the Forestry Dept never had a problem with them. It is the Bobo who gets a hold of some illegal ammo or makes a stupid move that cause a problem like fires, poaching or shooting themselves or someone else.


Get out and shoot a few thousand rounds like my dad and his kids did here in Southern CA.