Unitarian church shootings

[jazzcat]

Yikes, I just watched the local evening news and learned that the nut job shooter is from my hometown. He lives here in Knoxville now - like me - but he grew up where I did, about 35 miles west of Knoxville. It's a small town and I don't know him but I'm sure my Dad knew his family. My parents owned an appliance store and knew almost everyone back then.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I don't see anyone here excusing him or blaming the instrument of death he used.

I just hope they will also catch the psycho who set Yosemite on fire -- target shooting. Same inanimate object. So unnecessary. Look him (or her) up as well and throw away the key.

[Lady's Human]

The guy could have done the same (or worse) by driivng a vehicle into the church. I don't see how the inanimate object used has anything to do with it.


Curious as to how they link the Yosemite fires to target shooting. I've been shooting hundreds of times, never set anything on fire.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The guy could have done the same (or worse) by driivng a vehicle into the church. I don't see how the inanimate object used has anything to do with it.


Curious as to how they link the Yosemite fires to target shooting. I've been shooting hundreds of times, never set anything on fire.

Oh...that old chestnut about cars. See....cars have a purpose...transportation. Guns have a purpose...Killing. Real simple if you think about it...A by-product of many useful objects can be killing...knives, showers, rope, toys. Guns have only one purpose and one by-product.

But of course, you are, I am sure, more of an authority on what started the fire than those investigating it!

[Lady's Human]

Unlike you, Sara, I wasn't questioning whether or not it was started by target shooting (If someone who does something for a living states what they believe as fact, I tend to believe it, unlike you) I was questioning how they linked it to target shooting. Unlike some who take the MSM at face value, I'd like to see something a little more in depth before I take it as gospel.

The only thing in any of the reports about the yosemite fires I found on the web was a single sentence stating that they had traced the fire to target shooting. In the thousands of rounds I've sent downrange, and the millions of rounds I've been responsible for going downrange, the only fires I've ever seen started were from tracers, which are normally military use only.I've never seen a range fire started by Bubba with his shotgun.

[Suki Wingy]

yeesh that's a little scarey! Every single person I met in my old (Unitarian) church was pretty open and caring. That's pretty much the only thing they had in common, but still.

[jennielynn1970]

I think our culture is just gun obsessed. Heaven forbid you revoke the rights of the people to own as many of them as they want as well. That's just so "un-American". (that was sarcasm)

Too many guns in the hands of too many people who shouldn't hold anything sharper than pencil.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Unlike you, Sara, I wasn't questioning whether or not it was started by target shooting (If someone who does something for a living states what they believe as fact, I tend to believe it, unlike you) I was questioning how they linked it to target shooting. Unlike some who take the MSM at face value, I'd like to see something a little more in depth before I take it as gospel.

The only thing in any of the reports about the yosemite fires I found on the web was a single sentence stating that they had traced the fire to target shooting. In the thousands of rounds I've sent downrange, and the millions of rounds I've been responsible for going downrange, the only fires I've ever seen started were from tracers, which are normally military use only.I've never seen a range fire started by Bubba with his shotgun.

I don't understand your first paragraph. (And I also don't think you are being truthful.) I believe the fire inspectors. You questioned it, I didn't. Perhaps, just perhaps, as I live in California, it is covered more extensively here?

How many rounds have you shot downhill in California, during high fire danger and during an epic drought? I live on the edge of Camp Pendleton and I can tell you there are frequent brush fires there from target practice.

So, if it had never happened to you, you don't believe it. If you have never seen it, it doesn't happen. Got it.

p.s. What is MSM????

[Grace]

p.s. What is MSM????

I do believe that is Main Stream Media.

[RICHARD]

How many rounds have you shot downhill in California, during high fire danger and during an epic drought? I live on the edge of Camp Pendleton and I can tell you there are frequent brush fires there from target practice.

Camp Pendleton has their own fire department (Marines) and the ranges are in isolated areas that have many firebreaks around the perimeter.

I have been in many areas -Texas Canyon, San Fransiquito Canyon and some areas in the Angeles Nat'l. Forest when shooting was legal. My dad's club used to hold many shooting competitions where there were 20-30 guys shooting thousands of rounds and never ran into any problems with fires.

IN all the years that I have live out here in Cah Lee Fun Nee Ah that is the second time I have heard of a fire being started by a shooter. Usually the AHs get lost and light a FOREST FIRE so they can be seen.

The comps were held in all kinds of conditions and the Forestry Dept never had a problem with them. It is the Bobo who gets a hold of some illegal ammo or makes a stupid move that cause a problem like fires, poaching or shooting themselves or someone else.


Get out and shoot a few thousand rounds like my dad and his kids did here in Southern CA.