mail fraud?

[cassiesmom]

Rats, rats! The Post Office is closed today for President's Day! On my way to work I blew by there to talk to the Postmaster, and the door was locked. I completely forgot it's a holiday. So - I put the letter in the shred bucket at work, envelope and all. Thank you, everyone for confirming my hunch.

[borzoimom]

Rats, rats! The Post Office is closed today for President's Day! On my way to work I blew by there to talk to the Postmaster, and the door was locked. I completely forgot it's a holiday. So - I put the letter in the shred bucket at work, envelope and all. Thank you, everyone for confirming my hunch.

Biggest indicator is the class of mail. If first class- that is one thing- but bulk mailings are 3rd class mail!

[Lady's Human]

You CAN take the letter to the postmaster, who will in due course notify the postal inspectors.

Nothing much will come from it, though the sender (if there is a return address) may get a visit from the friendly neighborhood Postal Inspector.

If you want to see how efficient the postal inspectors CAN be, however, send an envelope full of talcum powder. (JK, DO NOT try this)

[borzoimom]

You CAN take the letter to the postmaster, who will in due course notify the postal inspectors.

Nothing much will come from it, though the sender (if there is a return address) may get a visit from the friendly neighborhood Postal Inspector.

If you want to see how efficient the postal inspectors CAN be, however, send an envelope full of talcum powder. (JK, DO NOT try this)

THATS SICK.. We lived through the anthrax.. you didnt.. And by the way- a postal inspector can arrest you WITHOUT cause..

[Lady's Human]

BZM, Just a hint......

DO NOT tell me what I have and haven't had to deal with.

[borzoimom]

BZM, Just a hint......

DO NOT tell me what I have and haven't had to deal with.

DID YOU HAVE THE THREAT IN YOUR PLANT??? Did you have co workers die?? DID YOU FEAR THE HEALTH OF YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILD AND TOLD TO REPORT FLU SYMPTONS TO THE POSTAL POLICE???? I THINK NOT!

[Catlady711]

And by the way- a postal inspector can arrest you WITHOUT cause..

Actually they can arrest, but NOT without a cause per the US code. I highlighted the parts from the code applicable to this below as well as included the link to the US House of Rep. which has posted the code online.


US Code - House of Rep.

-CITE-

18 USC Sec. 3061 01/03/05

-EXPCITE-

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART II - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

CHAPTER 203 - ARREST AND COMMITMENT

-HEAD-

Sec. 3061. Investigative powers of Postal Service personnel
-STATUTE-

(a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, Postal Inspectors

and other agents of the United States Postal Service designated by

the Board of Governors to investigate criminal matters related to

the Postal Service and the mails may -

(1) serve warrants and subpoenas issued under the authority of

the United States;

(2) make arrests without warrant for offenses against the

United States committed in their presence;

(3) make arrests without warrant for felonies cognizable under

the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to

believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is

committing such a felony;
(4) carry firearms; and

(5) make seizures of property as provided by law.

(b) The powers granted by subsection (a) of this section shall be

exercised only -

(1) in the enforcement of laws regarding property in the

custody of the Postal Service, property of the Postal Service,

the use of the mails, and other postal offenses; and

(2) to the extent authorized by the Attorney General pursuant

to agreement between the Attorney General and the Postal Service,

in the enforcement of other laws of the United States, if the

Attorney General determines that violations of such laws have a

detrimental effect upon the operations of the Postal Service.-SOURCE-

(Added Pub. L. 90-560, Sec. 5(a), Oct. 12, 1968, 82 Stat. 998;

amended Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A), Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat.

781; Pub. L. 100-690, title VI, Sec. 6251(a), Nov. 18, 1988, 102

Stat. 4362.)

-MISC1-

AMENDMENTS

1988 - Pub. L. 100-690 substituted "Investigative powers of

Postal Service personnel" for "Powers of postal personnel" in

section catchline, and amended text generally. Prior to amendment,

text read as follows:

"(a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, officers and

employees of the Postal Service performing duties related to the

inspection of postal matters may, to the extent authorized by the

Board of Governors -

"(1) serve warrants and subpenas issued under the authority of

the United States;

"(2) make arrests without warrant for offenses against the

United States committed in their presence; and

"(3) make arrests without warrant for felonies cognizable under

the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to

believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is

committing such a felony.

"(b) The powers granted by subsection (a) of this section shall

be exercised only in the enforcement of laws regarding property of

the United States in the custody of the Postal Service, including

property of the Postal Service, the use of the mails, and other

postal offenses."

1970 - Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(i), substituted "postal

personnel" for "postal inspectors" in section catchline.

Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(ii), substituted

"officers and employees of the Postal Service performing duties

related to the inspection of postal matters may, to the extent

authorized by the Board of Governors - " for "postal inspectors

may, to the extent authorized by the Postmaster General - ".

Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(iii), substituted

"Postal Service, including property of the Postal Service," for

"postal service".

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1970 AMENDMENT

Amendment by Pub. L. 91-375 effective within 1 year after Aug.

12, 1970, on date established therefor by the Board of Governors of

the United States Postal Service and published by it in the Federal

Register, see section 15(a) of Pub. L. 91-375, set out as an

Effective Date note preceding section 101 of Title 39, Postal

Service.

[cassiesmom]

You CAN take the letter to the postmaster, who will in due course notify the postal inspectors.

Nothing much will come from it, though the sender (if there is a return address) may get a visit from the friendly neighborhood Postal Inspector.

If you want to see how efficient the postal inspectors CAN be, however, send an envelope full of talcum powder. (JK, DO NOT try this)

*shiver* I have a friend who works for the federal government in Washington -- please, pretty please I beg, no anthrax jokes p-l-e-a-s-e.

This letter had a return address label though the sender's last name was Jackson or Johnson - something very common. My address was on a label (but not bar coded) and the postage was a real, honest to goodness 39 cent stamp. I don't know whether the person honestly thought that if they did this they'd make a gazillion bucks, or what. It doesn't matter though, because I had a hunch that something wasn't quite right. The other thing that creeped me out was that when I searched it on Google, it came up 4 or 5 times as something you should really do before a Web site came up that said this is a hoax, don't go near it. If anyone reading this gets one in the mail or e-mail, RUN FAR AWAY.

[Lady's Human]

BTW, BZM, A Postal inspector cannot arrest anyone without cause. It's a little thing called the US Constitution. (I know they don't teach that in the ASP program, but you night have heard about it in history class in high school)

[borzoimom]

Reported to Karen- and yes- they can- they have more power than the FBI- One more rude comment from you.. Like the ones received in pm and I will post them.. Get some mental help before you go " postal".. AND I DO NOT CARE if you are Karens' brother or not- if anything you should SET AN EXAMPLE on posting- INSTEAD- .. YOU DONT ..

[Lady's Human]

Feel free to post whatever you want.