Pit bulls??

[K9soul]

I've been editing as I thought of more about what I wanted to say. I'm not offended, and I know the purpose wasn't to pick out another breed. It was more a mental cathartic episode on my part, goldens/labs are ALWAYS used as the "bad" example it seems like . I know the folks in this thread are farthest from blaming a breed rather than deed. If I sounded angry, I promise I didn't intend to

[K9soul]

well said K9 however even the best breeders line breed (inbreed) so not all of it is attributed to puppymills. My cocker is sweet great on a grooming table does all her commands on a drop of the dime. cost hubby a fortune as she is show quality. She is also incredibly clingy we hire a sitter to go out, otherwise she chews her fur off literally. She adores kids is terrified of the door bell has stomach issues (hence the raw diet cleared that hurdle) is prone to unprovoked bouts of high pitched barking and "fits" she just sorta goes weird. We spayed her rather than even consider the show ring or breeding her. Paid a huge sum (nearly 1200 in breach of contract fees) and love her to death.

Yeah you're right, then there are the dogs who are well loved but have individual issues.. Tash is not a stranger lover and I would NEVER drop her off at a groomer to have her nails done, I honestly don't know if she might try to bite if she was nervous enough. If the owners know their dogs have issues or are likely to bite they should be responsible about it. Unfortunately the world is filled with inconsiderate and irresponsible people. Fortunately there are some wonderfully considerate and responsible people to help make up for it.

I probably shouldn't post when I'm this tired. I'll end up coming across wrong, of course no offense or anger was intended in my first post

[wolfsoul]

Sorry about that Jess, I just meant to say that any breed can bite --- Goldens and labs are seen as such nice, family breeds it can be easy to pick on them in these topics. Nothing against the breeds -- I do like to think of the "ideal" as the breed as a whole -- in which case both labs and goldens are wonderful dogs. Come to think of it, pit bulls used to be the ideal family dog too. I won't be surprised if one day both breeds are seen as "pit bulls." It's frightening. I'm so happy to see more people being educated on good and bad breeding, and so many people becoming more interested in training -- maybe one day dog attacks won't be so common and people won't have to blame the breeds.

[K9soul]

No need to apologize at all. Actually I'm sorry, I'm feeling more and more like I came across as angry or offended . And you actually have a really good point there (and a scary one). At one time pitties really were viewed as great family dogs.. they were icons in a lot of ways. Petey from Little Rascals, the original RCA dog was a pitbull, etc.. Collies have been in the spotlight, dalmations, cocker spaniels.. labs/goldens seem so much in the spotlight now, and it's scary, because we have seen the results of that. You never know who will be the next target of prejudice and BSL because of how people are ruining these dogs.

[DrKym]

K9 and Wolf no offense taken. It just seems that ppl do not want to admit that some of their animals may have issues. All that does is hurt the breed. I would rather admit my dog isn't "perfect" than to live with the fact that someone was hurt because I was ignorant.

[K9soul]

Well talking about pitties got me in the mood to look at pictures.. and I came across this little guy. OMG just had to share

http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/dog/dis...s/rb_igsie.jpg

[wolf_Q]

I agree, I believe that any person who calls themselves a dog lover should NEVER support any BSL. Even if they happen to hate the breed that is the current target...it starts with pit bulls but it will just keep going. I've seen a ton of breed ban lists that include siberian huskies, which as they are my beloved breed it really hits close to home...

[DrKym]

Starts with Pits? Honey that list is awful it also includes Rotties Danes Bulldogs, Poodles, Cockers, Eskimo dogs. What is awful is that Huskies dont make the top 50 in bites
and Pits dont make the top 10
btw my cocker is listed as # 4

[wolf_Q]

Oh I know that there's many other breeds on breed ban lists but the main target in the media right now is pit bulls. Are you talking about a list of the number of bites for each breed? I haven't seen that but I've looked at many apartment and insurance listings that ban "dangerous" breeds and huskies are almost always on those.

If we were to ban breeds in our grooming salon based on the number of bites and attempted bites the list would likely include shih tzus, poodles, cockers, schnauzers etc. not the typical "dangerous" breeds. If we did that we'd lose like most of our business, not to mention how absurd that would be. Like I said earlier, there's good and bad (usually the owners fault) dogs of every breed, its so stupid to ban certain ones.

[DrKym]

Totally agreed! btw your pic of your dog is amazing! Even my son wants to "just touch it" Glad your baby has you!

[wolf_Q]

Thanks! He's a tad spoiled.

[DrKym]

With that face how can he not be? kisses Nemo and slips him a huge knuckle bone ::looks innocent::

[wolfsoul]

Belgians are on the lists too. I don't believe it's warranted for any breed to be BSLed, but I do think Belgians are dangerous and I'm not surprised they are a BSL target. If there were more of them I'm sure they'd be in the media as much as pitties.

[Jadapit]

This is in response to Jadapit (my second fave pittie owner) My daughter has been lurking and she asks 2 things from me. 1 to tell you that she is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad to see another responsible pittie owner

Thank you so much for all the nice comments you always say about me, it makes my day. Also, please tell your daughter thank you. Tell her I want to see pictures of her pitties. I bet they are beautiful!

[Glacier]

Starts with Pits? Honey that list is awful it also includes Rotties Danes Bulldogs, Poodles, Cockers, Eskimo dogs. What is awful is that Huskies dont make the top 50 in bites
and Pits dont make the top 10
btw my cocker is listed as # 4

Actually Huskies are in the top 10 for bites according to the last year the CDC collected such data(several years ago). The problem is that they don't define Husky as a Siberian Husky. Any dog with a curled tail and prick ears is listed as a "husky" on bite stats. If they were only looking at the Siberian, they would be much lower on the lists. Many insurance companies already have Siberians, Malamutes and all Northern breed mixes on their lists of banned dogs. They won't insure your home if you own one. There are several cities in the States and a few Canadian towns where BSL includes Siberians and Malamutes.