Pit bulls??

[DrKym]

K9 and Wolf no offense taken. It just seems that ppl do not want to admit that some of their animals may have issues. All that does is hurt the breed. I would rather admit my dog isn't "perfect" than to live with the fact that someone was hurt because I was ignorant.

[K9soul]

Well talking about pitties got me in the mood to look at pictures.. and I came across this little guy. OMG just had to share

http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/dog/dis...s/rb_igsie.jpg

[wolf_Q]

I agree, I believe that any person who calls themselves a dog lover should NEVER support any BSL. Even if they happen to hate the breed that is the current target...it starts with pit bulls but it will just keep going. I've seen a ton of breed ban lists that include siberian huskies, which as they are my beloved breed it really hits close to home...

[DrKym]

Starts with Pits? Honey that list is awful it also includes Rotties Danes Bulldogs, Poodles, Cockers, Eskimo dogs. What is awful is that Huskies dont make the top 50 in bites
and Pits dont make the top 10
btw my cocker is listed as # 4

[wolf_Q]

Oh I know that there's many other breeds on breed ban lists but the main target in the media right now is pit bulls. Are you talking about a list of the number of bites for each breed? I haven't seen that but I've looked at many apartment and insurance listings that ban "dangerous" breeds and huskies are almost always on those.

If we were to ban breeds in our grooming salon based on the number of bites and attempted bites the list would likely include shih tzus, poodles, cockers, schnauzers etc. not the typical "dangerous" breeds. If we did that we'd lose like most of our business, not to mention how absurd that would be. Like I said earlier, there's good and bad (usually the owners fault) dogs of every breed, its so stupid to ban certain ones.

[DrKym]

Totally agreed! btw your pic of your dog is amazing! Even my son wants to "just touch it" Glad your baby has you!

[wolf_Q]

Thanks! He's a tad spoiled.

[wolfsoul]

Belgians are on the lists too. I don't believe it's warranted for any breed to be BSLed, but I do think Belgians are dangerous and I'm not surprised they are a BSL target. If there were more of them I'm sure they'd be in the media as much as pitties.

[Love That Collie]

Dr. Goodnow......I have to disagree, my insurance agent told me
the insurance industry rank Pit Bulls #1 on the dog list in the U.S. consisitently as uninsurable on homeowners in most states. You cannot even purchase a seperate insurance policy in this state no matter how much you might want to pay. And it is not solely the breed temperament that the industry looks at or its propensity to bite or not to bite as the case might be.
They say that in REPORTED cases of bites that the breed's power, the pressure of the bite, the tendancy for it not to let go and lock its jaws and
go "for the kill" and not just a warning nip or minor bite that most of the time the attacks are proven unprovoked and of a deadly nature. Just because say, Oh, a tiny dog breed has a propensity to bite (for instance) doesn't make it any better than a certain Pit Bull's propensity to bite but for the fact
that the little dog's bite probably won't kill an adult.

I used to be an insurance investigator for insurance agency attorney's for 13 years and this breeds "track record" is not good and that is a shame that
people, especially in the U.S. have ruined this breed that could contribute
so much to society yet by most people seen as an outcast. This will not be
reversed until breeders all over come together as a whole and try to do something about it. I don't know what that will be nor how it will be accomplished but hope that it happens.

And I'll only pass along one more bit of info and then I'll shut up
My uncle was a dog trainer for the Military for many years and he stated that
when he was there that they never used Pit Bulls because they were unstable
and no matter how hard the trainers (from all over the country) tried 9 times out of 10 they could not get the dog to be consistent in command even 25% of the time, they could not get them to turn off their "kill" mode. And these dogs came from breeders all over the country and this was many years ago and the breed isn't getting any better in most peoples eyes. Yes, any dog probably will bite given the right circumstances but some have the propensity to "turn" at any time for no reason.

[Glacier]

Starts with Pits? Honey that list is awful it also includes Rotties Danes Bulldogs, Poodles, Cockers, Eskimo dogs. What is awful is that Huskies dont make the top 50 in bites
and Pits dont make the top 10
btw my cocker is listed as # 4

Actually Huskies are in the top 10 for bites according to the last year the CDC collected such data(several years ago). The problem is that they don't define Husky as a Siberian Husky. Any dog with a curled tail and prick ears is listed as a "husky" on bite stats. If they were only looking at the Siberian, they would be much lower on the lists. Many insurance companies already have Siberians, Malamutes and all Northern breed mixes on their lists of banned dogs. They won't insure your home if you own one. There are several cities in the States and a few Canadian towns where BSL includes Siberians and Malamutes.

[critter crazy]

As far as I am concerned any dog can bite, no matter the breed. To label a whole breed based on a few instances is maddening. Any dog, can and will bite given the right circumstances!(well actually it would be the wrong circumstances) I hate it when people blame a whole breed becuase of stupidity.

[luvofallhorses]

I agree, I believe that any person who calls themselves a dog lover should NEVER support any BSL. Even if they happen to hate the breed that is the current target...it starts with pit bulls but it will just keep going. I've seen a ton of breed ban lists that include siberian huskies, which as they are my beloved breed it really hits close to home...

well said..
I couldnt agree with you more.