50+ rats OH MY hehe

[Miss Z]

Perhaps if your first lot of rats was so stressful why on earth did you decide to risk that happening again?

[king2005]

Perhaps if your first lot of rats was so stressful why on earth did you decide to risk that happening again?

What risk? I'm having Grissim PTS. I'm not risking anything, I'm avoiding that horrible risk, as its not worth the suffering to the pet.


I need to cool down as I'm getting a little mouthy on here.. I will say I'm sorry for getting a little to mouthy/snappy & well.. rude! I'm sorry for that.

[Miss Z]

I meant the risk of bringing many new rats into the world, breeding is a stressful business for animals and unfortunately some breeding animals suffer terrible diseases. If it was so upsetting for you first time around then deciding to leap straight back into getting 5 or so rats and breeding them is pretty risky for them and you IMO.

[king2005]

I meant the risk of bringing many new rats into the world, breeding is a stressful business for animals and unfortunately some breeding animals suffer terrible diseases. If it was so upsetting for you first time around then deciding to leap straight back into getting 5 or so rats and breeding them is pretty risky for them and you IMO.

My first rats didn't get sick from breeding. They were already sick when i got them & then I treated them when I learned of them being sick. I thought the first rats reaction was a shit happends, but when the 2ed rat I had treated did the same thing, I swore I'll never do that treatment again & I plan to keep it that way. I have NEVER made an animal sick, I have gotten them sick. When I got the 2ed rat that was sick, I knew she was sick, thats why i took her in. After her reaction to the treatment, I knew it wasn't worth the suffering, as both rats died anyways (I'd rather them die sick, then suffering in hell.)

[Vela]

Well I am glad to hear that Grissim is being PTS today, just so he is no longer suffering. I don't know much about rats and medications but if it's that bad off then it's best he is is PTS so he doesn't have to feel that kind of pain. Just glad you are doing it now and not letting him go on so sickly.

[My Peanuts]

I hope you understand that our concerns are about the animals. I don't dislike you. I just want every single animal to be treated with the most respect that they can.

[My Peanuts]

Also, Grissim aside, I'm finding it troubling that you can't tell us how the others are "killed." You described it as the most humane way possible. If that's the fact then it shouldn't me an issue how they are "killed."

[Miss Z]

Also, Grissim aside, I'm finding it troubling that you can't tell us how the others are "killed." You described it as the most humane way possible. If that's the fact then it shouldn't me an issue how they are "killed."

That's still troubling me too.

I've really got to try to stay off of this thread now. I don't want to say things I may regret, and I'm so sick of argueing, I really don't want to and I've tried to understand what everyone is saying, but on this one I'm so worried. I can't lose any more sleep over the welfare of these animals.

[king2005]

That's still troubling me too.

I've really got to try to stay off of this thread now. I don't want to say things I may regret, and I'm so sick of argueing, I really don't want to and I've tried to understand what everyone is saying, but on this one I'm so worried. I can't lose any more sleep over the welfare of these animals.

loosing sleep over what? that I'd rather save my pet rat from horrible suffering? or that I have a big ugly pet thats gonna eat something cute & fuzzy?

What have I not answered thats making you loose sleep over?

[molucass]

They have already explained to you what you have not answered.

If the way you "KILL" your feeders is SO humane, then why can't you explain how you "KILL" them? If it was indeed humane, you wouldn't have a problem posting the explanation.

[Miss Z]

loosing sleep over what? that I'd rather save my pet rat from horrible suffering? or that I have a big ugly pet thats gonna eat something cute & fuzzy?

What have I not answered thats making you loose sleep over?

OK, at which point did I condemn your turtle for sparking this controversy? I understand the law of nature quite well. I would have far less of a problem if I thought you were breeding responsibly, but unfortunately I don't. This whole thread was started in a very light-hearted manner, it's only turned serious when people such as myself began to raise questions. How can I not feel guilty when my own rat lives such a good life, and I feel that far away there are others like her who are cramped up and will be disposed of in a way you consider humane but will not tell us about?