50+ rats OH MY hehe

[My Peanuts]

Just as your anger gets through on the Internet so does your lack of remorse.

Yes I am reading ALL the posts and your answers are simply not good enough and some of the questions are conveniently not answered. It’s obvious this is all just to save money. Money on buying feeders and money saved by not taking sick pets for vet care. If you can't afford the proper care for ALL of your animals then you have no right to have them.

[My Peanuts]

Guess I have to type this in more detail for you, I thought you understood how an animal was PTS (as I already said its done by the vet in an earlier post).

Grissim will be handed over to a vet. The vet will bring Grissim into the back. The vet will stick a needle in Grissim's belly & inject him with a drug that'll put him to sleep. Then they'll stick him with a 2ed needle in the belly that'll stop his heat & kill him while he's sleeping so he wont feel any pain when his heart stops beating.

I so didn't want to type that kind of detail!

I think Miss Z's concern is for the feeders as well as Grissim. I'm pretty sure she knows how a vet puts an animal to sleep.

[Miss Z]

Guess I have to type this in more detail for you, I thought you understood how an animal was PTS (as I already said its done by the vet in an earlier post).

Grissim will be handed over to a vet. The vet will bring Grissim into the back. The vet will stick a needle in Grissim's belly & inject him with a drug that'll put him to sleep. Then they'll stick him with a 2ed needle in the belly that'll stop his heat & kill him while he's sleeping so he wont feel any pain when his heart stops beating.

I so didn't want to type that kind of detail!

Wait, your posts do not make sense. In a previous post, you differenciated between putting an animal down and how you plan to 'kill' Grissim. Yes, I do understand how an animal is PTS, thank-you-very-much, and from the sounds of it, I know a heck of a lot more about rats than you do evidently. I hate to be so accusing but this whole thread has hit a raw nerve for me.

And if you don't cry at the death of your pets, I pity you. Really, I do.

[king2005]

Just as your anger gets through on the Internet so does your lack of remorse.

Yes I am reading ALL the posts and your answers are simply not good enough and some of the questions are conveniently not answered. It’s obvious this is all just to save money. Money on buying feeders and money saved by not taking sick pets for vet care. If you can't afford the proper care for ALL of your animals then you have no right to have them.

What questions did I miss?? I know I ignored some as I had already answered them & felt no need to retype the answer, unless asked again. I'm doin gmy best to answer, if I missed a few, I'm sorry, I'm trying to type, chat & work all at the sametime & work & shat comes first before making sure I answered every single question, esp when I though I did.

ummm.. There is NO way you read & understood everything, cause you would not have said I'm out to save money on feeders. I spend WAY more money on careing for the rats then buying them at the store! 1 feeder is about a 1.00, so thats gonna cost me about 4.00/month to buy feeders in a store. I'm sorry but i spend WAY more then 4.00 on my rats/month! I breed so I know whats going into my Turtle. I don't want crap going into him that'll kill him!

I'm spending 60.00 to have Grissim PTS & I'll pay that 100 times if I have to!!

I do NOT want to watch another rat pissing & craping all over the place while having seazures because of the meds they have to take, How the hell is that treatment!!! I went through 2 rats that acted like that. I WILL NOT do it again.. I cannot put a pet through that kind of hell just to keep it longer & to please people like you. How much more details do you want?? Do you need to know the colour of the urin, how much crap come out while the rat is shaking all over the place or what colour the skin turns when they stop breathing ?! For gods sake I said I have seen them go through hell through the treatments!! I was trying to spare you the horrible details!! I also don't want to see that ever again!! If you can handle your pet suffering through a treatment like that, then fine thats your choice to watch your pet look like that.. for me, NO WAY IN HELL. I'd rather bring it to the vet & have it PTS so it doesn't have to suffer!

[Miss Z]

Perhaps if your first lot of rats was so stressful why on earth did you decide to risk that happening again?

[king2005]

Wait, your posts do not make sense. In a previous post, you differenciated between putting an animal down and how you plan to 'kill' Grissim. Yes, I do understand how an animal is PTS, thank-you-very-much, and from the sounds of it, I know a heck of a lot more about rats than you do evidently. I hate to be so accusing but this whole thread has hit a raw nerve for me.

And if you don't cry at the death of your pets, I pity you. Really, I do.

I didn't say I was killing Grissim, I said I was going to get him PTS. I said Grissim isn't a feeder, hes a pet/breeder.

Feeders are killed & pets are PTS. I also said I'm NOT going into details on how to kill a feeder & that I will not post regardless.

Why do I have to cry? Why can't I just feel sad & feel like crap?

[king2005]

Perhaps if your first lot of rats was so stressful why on earth did you decide to risk that happening again?

What risk? I'm having Grissim PTS. I'm not risking anything, I'm avoiding that horrible risk, as its not worth the suffering to the pet.


I need to cool down as I'm getting a little mouthy on here.. I will say I'm sorry for getting a little to mouthy/snappy & well.. rude! I'm sorry for that.

[Miss Z]

I meant the risk of bringing many new rats into the world, breeding is a stressful business for animals and unfortunately some breeding animals suffer terrible diseases. If it was so upsetting for you first time around then deciding to leap straight back into getting 5 or so rats and breeding them is pretty risky for them and you IMO.

[My Peanuts]

I hope you understand that our concerns are about the animals. I don't dislike you. I just want every single animal to be treated with the most respect that they can.

[My Peanuts]

Also, Grissim aside, I'm finding it troubling that you can't tell us how the others are "killed." You described it as the most humane way possible. If that's the fact then it shouldn't me an issue how they are "killed."

[king2005]

I meant the risk of bringing many new rats into the world, breeding is a stressful business for animals and unfortunately some breeding animals suffer terrible diseases. If it was so upsetting for you first time around then deciding to leap straight back into getting 5 or so rats and breeding them is pretty risky for them and you IMO.

My first rats didn't get sick from breeding. They were already sick when i got them & then I treated them when I learned of them being sick. I thought the first rats reaction was a shit happends, but when the 2ed rat I had treated did the same thing, I swore I'll never do that treatment again & I plan to keep it that way. I have NEVER made an animal sick, I have gotten them sick. When I got the 2ed rat that was sick, I knew she was sick, thats why i took her in. After her reaction to the treatment, I knew it wasn't worth the suffering, as both rats died anyways (I'd rather them die sick, then suffering in hell.)

[Vela]

Well I am glad to hear that Grissim is being PTS today, just so he is no longer suffering. I don't know much about rats and medications but if it's that bad off then it's best he is is PTS so he doesn't have to feel that kind of pain. Just glad you are doing it now and not letting him go on so sickly.

[Miss Z]

Also, Grissim aside, I'm finding it troubling that you can't tell us how the others are "killed." You described it as the most humane way possible. If that's the fact then it shouldn't me an issue how they are "killed."

That's still troubling me too.

I've really got to try to stay off of this thread now. I don't want to say things I may regret, and I'm so sick of argueing, I really don't want to and I've tried to understand what everyone is saying, but on this one I'm so worried. I can't lose any more sleep over the welfare of these animals.

[king2005]

That's still troubling me too.

I've really got to try to stay off of this thread now. I don't want to say things I may regret, and I'm so sick of argueing, I really don't want to and I've tried to understand what everyone is saying, but on this one I'm so worried. I can't lose any more sleep over the welfare of these animals.

loosing sleep over what? that I'd rather save my pet rat from horrible suffering? or that I have a big ugly pet thats gonna eat something cute & fuzzy?

What have I not answered thats making you loose sleep over?

[molucass]

They have already explained to you what you have not answered.

If the way you "KILL" your feeders is SO humane, then why can't you explain how you "KILL" them? If it was indeed humane, you wouldn't have a problem posting the explanation.