50+ rats OH MY hehe

[king2005]

Why not take him to a vet and see what they say first? Are you taking him to the vet to be PTS?

As I said, I DO NOT aprove of imbreed animals like this. Its wrong & sick!

[k9krazee]

As I said, I DO NOT aprove of imbreed animals like this. Its wrong & sick!

So you won't be taking him to the vet? How will he be PTS?

[king2005]

So you won't be taking him to the vet? How will he be PTS?

Where did I say I wasn't taking him to the vets to be PTS?
Isn't there only 1 way to put an animal to sleep? reason its called PTS

I don't put feeders to sleep, I kill feeders.

[k9krazee]

Oh, well you never answered the original question...just said that you don't approve of inbred animals, so I was under the impression he was not going to see a vet. Sorry.

[My Peanuts]

This is so sad. Inbred or not it's still an animal with feelings. He deserves vet care. If the vet said he was in pain and there is no hope then fine, put him to sleep, but it seems no action has been taken. If I found out one of my animals was inbred the wrong way (there are good ways to inbreed rats I've been told) the only thing I would do is keep him/her from mating. I treat my animals like family and it sounds like this rat is getting treated as an object. It's sad.

[My Peanuts]

I don't put feeders to sleep, I kill feeders.

Can you clarify this a bit? Does this mean if one of the babies was sick you'd treat it different than if it was a pet? Pets get put to sleep and feeders just get killed? If so that is one of the worst things I have heard in a while. They are animals regardless if they are food or not. They deserve respect.

[luckies4me]

Why have you NOT taken him to the vet? I'm sorry but this has me steamed! How sad for this poor rat. You are just letting him suffer! He's probably sneezing stuff out because you have avoided getting him the proper vet care. Just because he is inbred (it's not that bad with rats if you would listen and do research. Ask many of the top breeders. A lot of the traits we have are set through inbreeding/linebreeding) does not mean this poor guy has to have his tombstone chizzled already. You are very irresponsible. Just so you know it's very common for male rats to have an orangish color to their skin. It's caused by the protein the skin creates, and males just happen to have more than females. If they have too much protein in their diet it gets worse. It can also be caused from having a dirty cage. Also, if I was that rat and had such a horrible life living in that house I'd probably be a bit aggressive too. Just a thought. Maybe you should take care of your animals.

[king2005]

Can you clarify this a bit? Does this mean if one of the babies was sick you'd treat it different than if it was a pet? Pets get put to sleep and feeders just get killed? If so that is one of the worst things I have heard in a while. They are animals regardless if they are food or not. They deserve respect.

PTS is death by a vet, as in the animal is given a shot to put it to sleep & then a shot to kill it in its sleep.

You cannot PTS a feeder as the toxins in its body will go into the animal feeding on it (very bad!), there for it is killed. Cows, chicken, pigs, deer are all killed.. pets are PTS...

[My Peanuts]

PTS is death by a vet, as in the animal is given a shot to put it to sleep & then a shot to kill it in its sleep.

You cannot PTS a feeder as the toxins in its body will go into the animal feeding on it (very bad!), there for it is killed. Cows, chicken, pigs, deer are all killed.. pets are PTS...

I understand now. I thought you meant feeders that were sick and weren't going to be used as food would just be killed.

I'm sorry, but I still feel that these feeders could be cared for better.

[king2005]

I understand now. I thought you meant feeders that were sick and weren't going to be used as food would just be killed.

I'm sorry, but I still feel that these feeders could be cared for better.

Grissim isn't a feeder (you don't name feeders, that would be mentaly cruel). Hes a pet (I play with them, hold them, let them run about outside the cage, name them) that I use in breeding.. well not anymore (breeding wise).

Depending on how ill the rat is, depends on if it needs to be PTS or not. I will not give my rats drugs to cure an illness. I will remove the rat, make it comfy, I'll give it herbals, but not drugs. I'm 100% against pumping feeder animals (including farm animals) full of drugs, as it goes into the being eatting it & then causes issues (cancers, etc) in the being. Biggest reason I wont eat beef from the usa anymore.. Canada's beef (& milk products) isn't much better, but the usa's meet still has more meds & crap pumped into the cows!

I support natural farms 100% & do the same with my feeder animals (the parents of the feeders). I will use polysporn & herbals, but if the animal isn't able to recover, then its PTS.

I myself do everything I can NOT to take drugs. I will put up with a cold & they usually last about a month for me & then thats it, no more colds for that year. Now that I've been fighting all my illnesses on my own, its rare that I get really sick like I use to when I would take meds.

So no I'm not being irresponsible with these rats, you just have a different opinion on this whole drug issue (Organic).