50+ rats OH MY hehe

[My Peanuts]

I don't own a snake...

So is nature cruel?
Hyena's eat their prey while its alive & crying, should we put up fences to prevent Hyena's from eatting Zebra's? Answer is no. Prey is prey, is it sad, yes, cruel no. Everything MUST eat & I'm not gonna starve my turtle just becuase its food item breaths air & has a heart beat.. remember plants feel pain too.. sure its different then an animal, but its still pain!
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It's not natural for the pray to be in an enclosed area with no way to get out. You ask if we should put up fences to prevent hyenas from eating zebra. No, but we also shouldn't trap the zebras in either.

I'm not sure where I stand on feeding live pray. I know it should be avoided if possible. It could be dangerous for both parties.

[king2005]

molucass,
My rats & mice never had any red (whatever you want to call it, or whatever its caused by is irelavent(sp) as its not good regarless) liquid on their noses. So when I bought mice at the store & saw them all with red liquid, to me that wasn't a good sign at all. I have frozen hundreds or mice & many rats & they never had red liquid on them.

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I change the nests everyday, as the babies do make a mess & its not healthy for them to be in it.

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No need to pump the rats full of drugs, as my turtle is already on vitamins for his health issue (he was born that way & I found him 1/2 dead).

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As for money, I do have a supplies fund for the pets.. No I wasn't prepared to replace the 55g tank that broke, but I was prepared as in I always have extra tanks (yes they are smaller but they are only temps)I also have extra filters (sure they aren't nearly as good, but they will work just fine). I also always buy food in bulk, as its cheaper in the long run. Its only the rats that require regular feedings, so its not hard to buy them food/treats/meds (for the lice) & bedding on a regular bases.. My fish food costs me about 50.00/year & about another 50.00 for chemicals. Turtle food is pretty much zip, as he eats once every 2 weeks & I give him people food often, so that doesn't hurt me (I don't count the cost of my own rats).

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Why did I mention I had rats & the babies.. well I think people will notice that I have rats in my house, when i start posting photos on my website & when people come to visit (I can't just hide them lol).. also I'm honest, I can't just pretend I don't have them. What if I need info (like when I had the lice issue), then people are gonna ask, when did you get rats? & then get upset for hiding (thinking I don't care for them cause I didn't tell anyone).. Sorry I don't hide things. I love my rats & want to make sure all is well.

Have I change how I deal with Rats, sure have, is it for the better, yep... So don't think I'm ignoring advice, its RUDE advice I don't like (don't think anyone likes that kind of advice) & I tend to get upset over it (like anyone would) & don't see the advice.

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I admit I made a bad choice when it came to the male (reason hes not being breed again & hes being PTS.. I know I already said that somewhere in this thread), I looked into him, but NOT deep enough. It was only after I breed him that I was told "more" info on him.

[My Peanuts]

I hate to ask, but how and why are you putting him to sleep?

[king2005]

I hate to ask, but how and why are you putting him to sleep?

Because I keep finding more problems with him & they are getting worse (hes in his own cage now). He was malnurished when I got him & infested with lice. His fur is still thinning & now he has white crusty stuff on his fur. His skin is all wrong (rough kinda like his tail) & its turning an odd colour (yellowish brown)).

His breathing is horrible, I thought he was sneezing casue I had the wrong shavings. But now he's still sneezing, but I can hear his breathing (raspy & hard to explain, I'm positive he has that UR issue, as my first Rat had it when i got him, except Grissim is getting worse really fast). But when he does sneeze now stuff comes out! I was told thats really bad & that his lungs are infected/damaged

Hes also gotten REALLY agressive (towards me & the other rats) the past week & seems to be a little off (confused I think). I don't believe in prolonging an animals suffering when they are highly imbreed, as more & more problems will keep popping up (I'm not putting a critter through that again). Its in the rats best intrest to be PTS

[My Peanuts]

Why not take him to a vet and see what they say first? Are you taking him to the vet to be PTS?

[king2005]

Why not take him to a vet and see what they say first? Are you taking him to the vet to be PTS?

As I said, I DO NOT aprove of imbreed animals like this. Its wrong & sick!

[k9krazee]

As I said, I DO NOT aprove of imbreed animals like this. Its wrong & sick!

So you won't be taking him to the vet? How will he be PTS?