Quote Originally Posted by king2005
their strength is great, but its the clip thingy that sucks.. they can just break off, or the spring breaks & then it can fall off the dog.. the screwing kind is super hard to break!
I just have it screwed up in the picture so you can't really tell. It is hard to explain how it works, but it is exactly how you described the screwing kind. You mean like this?



That is the same as my collar/leash combo. Besides that, a well trained dog should not have a chance to break any type of collar.