“Indian” mascots – appropriate or not?

[Soledad]

Or better yet, the Fighting Christians. Their halftime routine could entail nailing Jesus to the cross.

Hmmm...wonder if people would suddenly THEN find this to be an issue of importance.

[andrea_NMAggie]

wow, look at all of the passion revolving around this topic!

[2kitties]

At this point, I have this image of a fighting Pope chasing a Mighty Baptist to a dunking pool by a Fighting Crucifiction while the Marching Band plays onward Christian Soldiers.

I can't help it. I'm rofl.

[moosmom]

2kitties,

PM me PLEEEEEEZE!!!!

Careful Soledad, you might fall off your soapbox!

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by CatsinDenver
As I see it, having some kid dressed in feathers prancing around the field at halftime is disrespectful toward Native American traditions. Wouldn't there be an outcry if the Fighting Popes sent some kid out in Catholic regalia to do an entertaining dance across the field? Or if the Mighty Baptists showed up with a dunk tank and "baptized" the mascot after touchdowns?

Everyone knows that Popes don't fight and Baptizing players on the field is a 15 yard penalty.

I wouldn't trust ANY kid around a bunch of popes anyway.....

There have been cases where kids who are of AmerInd descent wanted to portray the Indian mascots themselves.....

I wonder what the team mascots names are in the areas where there are predominately AmerInds in the areas??

How's about a John Wayne High School....

Do they have a cancer riddled John Wayne leading the team out on the field??



One of the most fascinating thing that I have seen is going to cultural events and watching 'ethnic' dances.....

And what about the cheerleaders on the sideline?

Isn't that a smack in the face of women all over????

Here in L.A. they are called the 'LAKER GIRLS'...


Girls???? indeed!

[andrea_NMAggie]

2kitties, i'm dying laughing over here!!!

[2kitties]

Watch it Richard! I was a cheerleader my whole life. I can shake a pom pom with the best of em!

[mugsy]

Well, it's the 4 year old weighing in. I agree, there are so many other issues in the Native American communities that protesting the name of sports teams seem rather ridiculous. I was going to apply for a teaching job at a reservation school in Wisconsin and they told me not to bother since I was blonde and green eyed the people wouldn't listen to me. People still have dirt floors, no running water, no heat except a wood stove.....etc. I'm sorry fixing those things seem far more important.

AND I would have to change everything with my state on it....Hmmmm....Hoosierana??

I'm sure we could argue the nicknames and mascots of every school or professional sports team....what about the crazy leprachaun running around Notre Dame stadium??

[2kitties]

I think the Irish love that crazy green leprachaun.

Moosmom- you've been pm'd. I have a sick mind.

[Soledad]

I don't see the Irish living in squalor and being grossly underrepresented.

[mugsy]

Oh and should they paint over "Touchdown Jesus" at Notre Dame? (It's Christ with outstretched arms that is painted on the chapel...I think...and you can see it from the endzone at the stadium)

[mugsy]

Originally posted by Soledad
I don't see the Irish living in squalor and being grossly underrepresented.

Ahhh yes, but they are portrayed as drunks..


And how exactly is it relevent that they are living in squalor and being grossly underrepresented when the discussion started out to be whether or not Native Americans should be represented as mascots for sports teams?

You are not getting an argument from me about fixing the problem of the living conditions on the reservations. Now, that being said, THEY have to do something about fixing it also. I am more than willing to do what I can to help fix it, but I'm not willing to do it if they aren't willing to meet me halfway. There is also the fact that they do not HAVE to live on the reservation. They are citizens as well and are not being kept from running for public office where they could go a long way in helping their People. I think what some people are missing is that there are more important things than fighting a mascot when people are living in 19th century conditions.

[Soledad]

Only if it's a bunch of non-Christians misappropriating their religion and symbols. You can do it to your own, but not to others.

[Prairie Purrs]

Originally posted by mugsy
Oh and should they paint over "Touchdown Jesus" at Notre Dame? (It's Christ with outstretched arms that is painted on the chapel...I think...and you can see it from the endzone at the stadium)

I bet if they moved Touchdown Jesus into the stadium and used him as one of the goalposts, someone would complain.

Then they could sing that old country song, "Drop kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life."

[moosmom]

Careful Soledad, you might fall off your soapbox

Fall OFF her soapbox??? Quick, somebody SHOVE her, QUICK will ya???!!!