“Indian” mascots – appropriate or not?

[Soledad]

Finally!!! I thought I was the only one who thought this!!

If it's so not a big deal, why not just change the name? What's that saying about being magnanimous in victory....

[RICHARD]

So the Braves will become the Wussies???



I don't think so.



And what about the states, cites, and counties named after
the AmerInd tribes???

Isn't the development of those areas a slap at their heritage??


Chief Knock-a-Homa was added to the unemployment roles
because he was being culturally sensitive-and he WAS AN INDIAN!

http://www.laep.org/essay/9_19/pollresponse.html

[Soledad]

Is it either or? I'm sure there are other symbols of bravery to choose from. And what's with the RED SKINS??? That's pretty damn over the top.

[gini]

Originally posted by Soledad
Is it either or? I'm sure there are other symbols of bravery to choose from. And what's with the RED SKINS??? That's pretty damn over the top.

Richard has been training me in his humor.......

RED SKINS???? Aren't those peanuts?

[2kitties]

It is just NOT FAIR that I have the funniest, wittiest, most hilarious reply but I can't say it because it's a bit dirty.

Ya'll are missing out too cause it's a good one

[catland]

My high-school was the "Cardinals" - ooh - I can feel the fear in you now (yea, we sucked at most sports )

But my college was the "Vikings". As a decendant of Norway, I consider this to be kind of cool and I don't feel exploited.

I think that some of the resistance is from feeling like we've been PC'd to death.

btw - I like this web site - shows there's nothing like fighting fire with fire http://www.fightingwhites.org

[Soledad]

It's not about making a Fighting Whities team, it's about a power imbalance, people.

Fighting Whities is a-okay considering whites in this country are richer, healthier, better educated and more powerful. So, calling a team the Fighting Whities is really no big deal.

However, you take a bunch of white people who are organizing a football team and decide to use the most unrepresented and poory mistreated people in our country and use them as a logo or a mascot and you have a problem.

This is not about being PC, it's about being fair.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
Is it either or? I'm sure there are other symbols of bravery to choose from. And what's with the RED SKINS??? That's pretty damn over the top.

But what would the Wussie mascot look like????

as long as it's no cartoony figure like Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians...

I grew up with Speedy Gonzalez and it gave me a little bit of a charge to to see some 'color' in my cartoons-Not just the
Anglo figures like Shaggy, Josie and the Pussycats, Fred Flintstone and Elmer Fudd -actually Josie was smart, she had a black girl playing in the band......

Where were the 'people of color' in Bedrock?

The Washington Wizards were once known and the Bullets-but to be PC they changed their name.....

LOLOLOLOL..

I find it more offensive if they were called the Washington MAC-10s or the Washington AK-47's.....

The Washington Drive-By Shooters!!!

I vote that all Indian names be taken out of the American lexicon and pushed into obscurity....We did it once with the actual people, are we gonna do it again with their names???

[Logan]

This whole thing is another issue for people to sue about........but there are much more meaningful things in life that are important, than the names of high school, college and professional teams. My goodness we could find fault with every one of them, from Lions, Tigers and Bears to Chiefs, Braves and Redskins. Seems to me that people are looking for an "out" rather than focusing on other life threatening issues. Just my humble opinion..

[2kitties]

*pouts*
I still wish I could tell my dirty joke.

[Soledad]

Nope. Totally off the mark again, Richard. The names don't need to be taken out of usage, but they don't need to be used as mascots so a bunch of non-Indians can profit from it greatly.

*Must keep trying to explain it to people like they're all four year olds*

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by 2kitties
It is just NOT FAIR that I have the funniest, wittiest, most hilarious reply but I can't say it because it's a bit dirty.

Ya'll are missing out too cause it's a good one

lol


PM ME!!

FIGHTING WHITIES?????

Name the last WHITE heavyweight champ!

I rest my case.

Seriously,

I think that instead of wasting time picketing the RFK stadium or whereever Laurie's team plays, why not help out the people themselves...

I do remember watching a documentary about an Southwestern Indian woman who was getting ELECTRICITY in her home...

The 21st century and there are someplaces that are barely getting juice???

Maybe we can help them get flushing toilets before 2050.

Being proud of your heritage is great-but getting your spine out of whack because of a name is a little overboard for me....

But then again, I kinda like the Los Angeles Fighting Wussies....


My last point is about the Olympics.....isn't archery a thing that they AmerInds were good at??? Isn't making it a sport where a bunch of pot head white guys (Jason Huish-american gold medal winner and pot salesman) dominate a slap in the face of the Indians, whose expert skill at killing animals and white folks with arrows was part of THEIR heritage??

If we start to dig deep enough we can find fault with every thing on the planet......


I can hear it now......


"And here's the starting line-up for YOUR LOS ANGELES WUSSIES....."

insert crowd noise here.

[2kitties]

you've been pm'd you wussie.

[RICHARD]

2K....

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...

Ahem, it's Fighting Wussie to you!

Soledad,

How long have we been at it?

Relax and sit back for a second.......I was being facetious!

My points is that as long as it's not a stupid show of ignorance
any culture, heritage or background should be or can be recognized.


The Anaheim Angels were just purchased by a Mexican American business man....one of his first priorities was to lower the prices of beer.

Now there's a real problem.....The Catholic Church should protest the Mexican for selling beer while Angels Play, then the community should picket for him lowering the beer prices and promoting alcoholism....

Now they even have the ball games being called in Spanish!!

People will want more hispanic ball players and selling sushi at a
will undoubtably irritate some people of Japanese descent..

And where is PETA while the old 'horsehide' is being tossed around???

The best way to handle a stereotype is to ignore it.

Isn't a Fighting Wussie an oyxmoron???

I opened that can of worms........PM me with any 'moronic complaints'

[Prairie Purrs]

As I see it, having some kid dressed in feathers prancing around the field at halftime is disrespectful toward Native American traditions. Wouldn't there be an outcry if the Fighting Popes sent some kid out in Catholic regalia to do an entertaining dance across the field? Or if the Mighty Baptists showed up with a dunk tank and "baptized" the mascot after touchdowns?