mail fraud?

[Lady's Human]

Feel free to post whatever you want.

[mike001]

This went around some 20 yrs ago , it's just a pyramid scheme and the only ones to make big bucks are the top names...unless you start it. But they are illegal, just dump it.

[Karen]

I remember this type of thing going around when I was in elementary school - and getting told it was illegal way back then - more than 20 years ago!

[Catlady711]

And by the way- a postal inspector can arrest you WITHOUT cause..

Actually they can arrest, but NOT without a cause per the US code. I highlighted the parts from the code applicable to this below as well as included the link to the US House of Rep. which has posted the code online.


US Code - House of Rep.

-CITE-

18 USC Sec. 3061 01/03/05

-EXPCITE-

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART II - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

CHAPTER 203 - ARREST AND COMMITMENT

-HEAD-

Sec. 3061. Investigative powers of Postal Service personnel
-STATUTE-

(a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, Postal Inspectors

and other agents of the United States Postal Service designated by

the Board of Governors to investigate criminal matters related to

the Postal Service and the mails may -

(1) serve warrants and subpoenas issued under the authority of

the United States;

(2) make arrests without warrant for offenses against the

United States committed in their presence;

(3) make arrests without warrant for felonies cognizable under

the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to

believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is

committing such a felony;
(4) carry firearms; and

(5) make seizures of property as provided by law.

(b) The powers granted by subsection (a) of this section shall be

exercised only -

(1) in the enforcement of laws regarding property in the

custody of the Postal Service, property of the Postal Service,

the use of the mails, and other postal offenses; and

(2) to the extent authorized by the Attorney General pursuant

to agreement between the Attorney General and the Postal Service,

in the enforcement of other laws of the United States, if the

Attorney General determines that violations of such laws have a

detrimental effect upon the operations of the Postal Service.-SOURCE-

(Added Pub. L. 90-560, Sec. 5(a), Oct. 12, 1968, 82 Stat. 998;

amended Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A), Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat.

781; Pub. L. 100-690, title VI, Sec. 6251(a), Nov. 18, 1988, 102

Stat. 4362.)

-MISC1-

AMENDMENTS

1988 - Pub. L. 100-690 substituted "Investigative powers of

Postal Service personnel" for "Powers of postal personnel" in

section catchline, and amended text generally. Prior to amendment,

text read as follows:

"(a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, officers and

employees of the Postal Service performing duties related to the

inspection of postal matters may, to the extent authorized by the

Board of Governors -

"(1) serve warrants and subpenas issued under the authority of

the United States;

"(2) make arrests without warrant for offenses against the

United States committed in their presence; and

"(3) make arrests without warrant for felonies cognizable under

the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to

believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is

committing such a felony.

"(b) The powers granted by subsection (a) of this section shall

be exercised only in the enforcement of laws regarding property of

the United States in the custody of the Postal Service, including

property of the Postal Service, the use of the mails, and other

postal offenses."

1970 - Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(i), substituted "postal

personnel" for "postal inspectors" in section catchline.

Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(ii), substituted

"officers and employees of the Postal Service performing duties

related to the inspection of postal matters may, to the extent

authorized by the Board of Governors - " for "postal inspectors

may, to the extent authorized by the Postmaster General - ".

Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(38)(A)(iii), substituted

"Postal Service, including property of the Postal Service," for

"postal service".

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1970 AMENDMENT

Amendment by Pub. L. 91-375 effective within 1 year after Aug.

12, 1970, on date established therefor by the Board of Governors of

the United States Postal Service and published by it in the Federal

Register, see section 15(a) of Pub. L. 91-375, set out as an

Effective Date note preceding section 101 of Title 39, Postal

Service.

[wombat2u2004]

Same here....they are old old scams.
I'm 58, and can remember them when I was in school.
I think the people who start these things let them run for a little, and then when the going gets hot they back down and keep it quiet for a while.
They seem to surface maybe once a year.
A lot of people have lost money on them.
Wombat

I remember this type of thing going around when I was in elementary school - and getting told it was illegal way back then - more than 20 years ago!

[borzoimom]

Catlady711- my statement should have said " they can arrest you without warrent.." Thats what I meant. ( not 'without cause").. ( lol.. why someone would arrest someone without a cause is rather funny...lol..darn decongestants..) Thank you- thats what I meant..

[Edwina's Secretary]

Lh....hold on tight...I am coming to your aid!

Arresting people without cause or without warrant...only in Dick Cheney's dreams!

But what I find most.....oh would ironic be the right word???

A couple of you who thought the post with this in it....

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is
based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you!

was so wonderful! Sending it to all your friends as I recall.

Now....you are offended by mention of anthrax...while mentioning "going postal!" Well! I am offended by the use of the expression "going postal!"

So there!

I am sorry...you gave up the right to be offended, remember?

And LH...of course you are a bully....so am I. And I think we should be offended that people are suggesting that being a bully is a bad thing.

So there!

[lizbud]

Catlady711- my statement should have said " they can arrest you without warrent.." Thats what I meant. ( not 'without cause").. ( lol.. why someone would arrest someone without a cause is rather funny...lol..darn decongestants..) Thank you- thats what I meant..

Might be a good idea for you to stop posting altogether when you are
under the influence.

[cassiesmom]

STOP! STOP! STOP! PLEASE!

This whole thread started with me. I want to be the one to end it. Karen, please shut this one down. Enough is enough.

[sparks19]

Well I am offended by people being offended. Now how would one deal with that

Is it just me or are people more easily offended these days? I have seen far worse things said and implied than sending talcum powder in an envelope. I know people that died in car accidents.... should I be offended by jokes about idiot drivers? certainly not. If you are offended I suggest you look away from the thread instead of demanding people conform to your standards. Freedom of speech sucks sometimes don't it.

Edwina's secretary, the fact that we agree on something shall never leave this thread... understood lol Thank goodness neither of us is easily offended or we could have some serious issues sharing this board lol

As for mail fraud, LOL a guy on my hubby's hockey team is a postal worker and at christmas a lady sent cookies to her neighbor and just walked over and put them in the mail box with a little note. LOL he took the cookies and left a note for the lady that sent them saying it was illegal to put things in the mail that aren't from the post office.... he later went home and ate the cookies lol what a guy

[Lady's Human]

Sparks, you think YOU have some explaining to do for agreeing with ES?

I think I just saw a red guy with horns, a pointy tail and cloven hooves skiing by!

[Edwina's Secretary]

I so glad I have converted the two of you. Make sure you toe MY party line from now on!

[Cataholic]

ES-I want my whole body at your party!

[Barbara]

I think I just saw a red guy with horns, a pointy tail and cloven hooves skiing by!

That would be me (check it out in Tigris' Birthday therad at Cat general )

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Sparks, you think YOU have some explaining to do for agreeing with ES?

I think I just saw a red guy with horns, a pointy tail and cloven hooves skiing by!

How can he ski by ? Wouldn't the snow melt? Just wondering!