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Originally Posted by caseysmom
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Do you have to leave a comment to read the other comments, or am I not seeing the right link?Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
I'm wondering if comments are screened.. I only found a space to leave a comment, not read any of them. When you left the comment, could you read others?
Anyone care to comment on this unemployed idiot and her 14 illegitimate children???
Selfish and inconsiderate. I feel bad for her Mom. Her mother actually went to the doctor and begged him not to do this. She's living on a $50,000 student loan (she's not going to school) (how ya gonna pay that kinda money back with no job??) and doesn't consider food stamps as aid. Only a temporary thing. Her six kids at home have medical problems. I feel VERY sorry for the residents of the State of California.
Personally, I think those babies need DCF help.
Oh yeah, and now she's got a website up asking for DONATIONS!!!!:eek:
What Chudzpah!!
Donna, there's another thread about this under the "Ms. Pelosi" heading.
This woman is a piece of work. It seems she's spent alot of time on getting herself dolled up and prepared for all the money she wants to haul in. Too bad she doesn't seem to have time to act like a mother and be a little humble for what's just happened.
This has to be one of the craziest things I've ever heard about. I'm flabbergasted every time I hear more about it. I really believe this woman planned this thing from the beginning for her own welfare. Maybe the children should be taken away from her because I think she's a certified wacko.:( :eek: :mad:
A lot of student loans are cancelled in the event of the death of the "student". I have heard that more people than you might think just plan to make minimum payments all their lives and have no real plan to actually pay back the full amount.
I agree that DCF should be involved.
I don't see any place where we can read the comments. It's probably part of the facade they've added to make the site look more appealing.
I would love to read the comments she's getting. I think they all would be screened and censored out.:eek: :eek: :eek:
I can't imagine anyone saying anything encouraging to her.:(
I left a comment and did not see any previous comments. They didn't seem available. My guess is that was not a mistake.
I suggest we find the web page for the handlers and send them a comment. What sleeze bags.
I am sure there are folks out there wanting to donate things to this woman and I think that may be her main saving grace. I wonder how much money she will get in donations. I wonder if any companies will endorse her adventure?
:rolleyes:
I watched another clip on the news about another interview she gave and it mentioned in the summary that she will have at least 10 children in diapers at the same time.
My question too. :confused: I doubt it would be allowed here!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
A few centuries ago, it was normal to have up to approx. 6-10 children, but imagine if this goes on and on and on.... how long do you think our planet can cope?
http://killeenfurtneygroup.com/Index.cfm
I sent an email.
:mad:
I don't see anywhere to read others comments...that no doubt would be entertaining:D
NO, The California Idiot is right here.
You are thinking about OCTOMOM!:confused:
She is getting exactly what she wanted. Publicity and $$$$. I wonder how much 20/20 paid her for the first interview with her? It's just SICK!!!
Oh, and I thought I had heard that her mother moved out and wanted nothing to do with them. :confused:
Yeah, I heard about the website asking for donations this morning on the radio. And like the DJs said, some people will donate because if you think about it...it's not the babies fault. They didn't ask to be brought into this world (especially under these circumstances), but ultimately they would be the ones to suffer without help. It's just a sad stupid tragedy. And I would hope that doctor(s) would lose their practice.
Randi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Randi
Last century my mom had six......;)
The 'moral' outrage is really funny out here. Instead of being angry at the stupid doctor, the masses are angry at the stupid woman.
Yes, we all pay taxes and have to support this debacle in human form, but no one seems to mind that we all have to pay for the stupid people who the government has to help out because they bought houses they could not afford, invested money they had in stupid stocks. We have to hand out money to banks and other businesses because of their stupidity.
It's far easier to unload on some dumb dingleberry because she has a face and is not a faceless giant of industry.
Also, there are the arguements about the government regulating the 'birth' industry- Women complain about it all the time, but want their cake too.
If the government stepped in an outlawed all in-vitro births you would have a real hell storm here in the U.S.
It's o.k. for some women to have a set of twins or triplets-but by the same token, there are the people/couples so effing desperate to have their 'own' kids that they would have four or five embryos implanted to be guaranteed one child.
It's the circus that AMerica is sometimes!:rolleyes:
This discussion was on Dr. Phil yesterday and this is what they said.. She had all her kids this way. She was implanted with SIX each time and most of the time she only had 1 baby, once she had twins. This time she was implanted with 8 and when the doctor realized she had 8 babies in there, selective reduction should have been done..
However, they were mostly angry and blamed the doctor for ever implanting her anyway given that she already had 6, no job, no income or means of support and seems to have mental problems. Just lookimng at her income level, he should have refused. Just looking at the fact that she already have 6, he should have refused.
Someone from the Dr. Phil show went into the home with a camera and they already have kids stacked everywhere in there. There is NO room in that house for more kids.. Dr Phil said one thing she never considered was that they could take all those kids away from her and that is what he thinks needs to be done.. I agree.. Forget the cost of taking cost of all of them for a minute.. How many people is it going to take to feed those babies in one day, to change the diapers, to bathe them. How does she plan to keep up with the laundry? it will take more than 2 people, that is for sure!
I think they said she already has 2 special need kids at home and they expect that several of these will be special needs. She just will not be able to do it without tons of help. Who does she think is going to help?
When it is all said and done...............my heart just breaks for the 14 children she has had.
The Whittier Daily News website has some pictures of the inside of the house. Unreal!! I believe that's where I saw them--it might be a link I accessed from there. Also, pictures of her awhile back, looking like a totally different person. I had originally thought she had her lips done but now I think it's more than that.:rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:
I also feel sorry for those poor kids. How can she pretend to be such a great mother when she seems to have herself as the number one priority? She angers me to no end!!
The single fact that she had 6 children and wanted more through IVF is enough to make me highly suspicious of her. Especially not in her situation. This was a plan and she's succeeding at achieving her goal, slowly but surely.:(
That's because it was rare for them all to survive to adulthood! And growing your own help was cheaper than hiring help to work the farm/fields ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Randi
Yes, that's true, Karen, and it's still like that in undeveloped countries, but in the Western world it's not neccesary anymore.
I think China is handling it well!
:o Yes that is very true.. And yes they All lived off of their own farms.. They milked their own cows & grew their own veggies & had their hogs & cattle for meat.. I see this silly women living off of the Media & goverment handouts & ect.. She just makes me want to do this..Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
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This letter to the editor in the Calgary Sun today (Feb 12) struck a chord. I think this sums it up, though it was about the 60 year old here who had twins. (She also has a large, supportive extended family which includes a husband and a sibling or two).
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PREGNANCIES SEEM SELFISH
Re: Give new mom a break, Martin Hudson, Feb. 8. While I do agree with the spirit of the column and am trying not to judge, I would never state an opinion on whether they are unfit or not. But there seems to be a running theme in all the reports; from both of these women there is a lot of "me" and "I wanted" and "I need." It seems these births are all about them and what they wanted but not what perhaps would be best for the child or children. A selfish theme of "I want" with these pregnancies does not bode well for their upbringing. Like kittens and puppies, babies are a temporary state and parents are actually supposed to be raising future adults, a state in which children spend the majority of their time on earth. If you know you will not be around for their adolescence or you are a single mother of 12 to 15 children and have no time at all, how it is in the child's best interest to be born or it is just because you "want" something? Selfishness may not be crazy but perhaps it is worse. If they were truly crazy they would not have been allowed to breed.
Shannon Navarrete
Dr. Phil's show for 2/12/2009 is titled "Octuplets Scandal".
Couples today do not give the same respect that parenthood is due...Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
When is anyone gonna bag on the father? I can guess it would have happened even is she didn't know the guy, but when is everyone going to make a beeline to his doorstep and look for accountability?
Again,
There are a few people are stupid, selfish and oh, so idiotic when it comes to 'making' babies.
I go back to the woman in Cah Lee Fuh Nee ah that lost her three kids when a truck hit the car they were in. She goes to have three to replace the lost kids, by in-vitro and her life is complete again.
I say BS and it shows that some people refuse to move on and live a normal life- This couple decides to get a replacement set of kids.
Me? I'd be too heartbroken to even think about 'replacing' my children.
It's all done, because they can do it and there is no respect for 'birthing' children anymore. In-vitro for the selfish, is just about status and some parents parade the kids around with the modifier- This is our little miracle!
I can hardly wait until we can order 'Kustom Kids' and then watch the eff ups that will come from that!
Don't mess with mom nature!
I'm not comparing pets to kids here, but isn't this the same as many people do when they lose a furbaby? Somehow your life is very empty and lonely when you lose a beloved animal, just as a human's is when they lose a child, so you get another to fill the void. Saying that you're making a replacement is rather harsh. Some people want a child in their life to love, and tho the one they had is gone, there can be another, but never a replacement. No different than getting another dog, or cat or bunny - or whatever!Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Octomom didn't lose any - just added more to her already chaotic life.
Has anyone noticed her hands? In the video you can see her perfect nails - how does one manage that taking care of 6 kids? How does one afford the cost?
EXCELLENT, Richard.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I noticed them, too. Those white-capped fingernails as she powders the tiny baby's butt..Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
I become so angry every time you MISREPRESENT this situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
This couple had three children. The children were killed in a tragic accident. The mother was driving -- stopped on an exit ramp when she was rear-ended by a semi traveling at a high rate of speed.
The children were all killed.
Because of her age, remaining childbearing years and other medical consideration she, her husband and her doctors chose invitro.
Because of her age three embryos were implanted in the hopes of one healthy child. All three "took" and she was delivered of triplets.
They very much wanted to be parents. I do not think it was a "miracle" but rather a private decision and a medical outcome.
I do not know how I would feel or what I would do if my three children were killed and neither do you RICHARD. You do not know you would be "too heartbroken" to think of having more children.
And I think your statement that they should "move on and live a normal life" and to suggest they were after "replacement children" is disgusting.
However, very typical that you speak of "her" and what "she" did wrong immediately after complaining about people not holding fathers responsible.
If you actually read anything about this story you would know how often she and her husband have spoken of that their lives will never be the same and will always ache for the loss of the three children. But of course, you know better than they do.
And this statement...In-vitro is for the selfish...is the second most offensive thing you wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Petty, jealous, sour, and yes...selfish.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
The angry is strong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Justifiably so IMO. I have to agree 100% - that the situation was misrepresented yet again. ES said exactly what I was trying to express a few posts earlier, however, she has a way with words that I lack.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
Just the suggestion that the children of the ones that were lost in the accident were merely replacements, is so cruel, heartless and narrow minded. I found it to be quite offensive, and anyone that has children (and MOST who don't), would never believe it was the intention of having another child/children merely as a "replacement".
Total your car in an accident, and most likely you can replace it with one exactly like it. Would you even WANT to do the same with a child????
He's at it again -
This time a 49 year old, with 3 grown children, married for the 2nd time, and wanting a baby. Word is he implanted 7 embryos this time.Quote:
Dr. Michael Kamrava, the in-vitro fertilization specialist responsible for Octomom, has over-impregnated another woman - this time with quadruplets.
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WARNING: This is a personal opnion, disagreement is bound to happen so lets leave it at that ;)
I have lost a child. My first child was stillborn at full term. I now have a healthy, happy wonderful little boy that I love with all my heart. Do I think I was emotionally ready after my daughters death to have another child? No I honestly do not. The thought of getting pregnant again scared the ever living cr@p out of me. Would I have sought out a way to get pregnant again by any means? No I wouldn't have. For some reason God wanted me to have another child. For some reason God wanted to call my first child home. I believe everything happens for a reason. When a woman is impregnated to me it seems as if people are putting trust in science rather than God. THEY want a child right THEN so they take it upon themselves to make a decision that might not be best for the mother or the children involved. Conversely, I didn't want a child however I became pregnant and I learned from the situation. I count my child as a blessing, even doubly so because I was told I could never have children naturally again. My little boy wants for nothing and I will fight to the death to make sure it stays that way! This woman in my opinion does not want children for the joy of having children. She wants children for the joy of having attention. If she TRUELY wanted these kids, she would accept the blessings of others with humility and try her hardest to make sure she was giving each and every one of those kids the attention they deserve and need from their mother instead of parading around like a media whore (pardon my language but it fits).
Maybe not all in-vitro parents are selfish people, in fact I am sure of it. The ones that ARE selfish are those who do it simply for the attention they know having a child will get them. To me, there is something fundamentally wrong with this woman and the way she is presenting herself.
I could not agree with you more. The Octomom is nuts. Plain and simple. I do not think she has enough self-awareness to realize how selfish her conduct is -- but it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJFyrewolf36
However, to make ANY comparison to her and the couple who tragically lost their children is obscene.
I cannot help but wonder what kind of a "normal" life the OP thinks the couple will EVER live after losing their children. As you have so eloquently shown us the pain does not go away whether you have more children or not.
I am happy for you in your son...
I am honestly glad to see we agree on something :) Thank you for your reply! I can say from personal experience that there is no "normal" life after losing a child, none whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
You betcha! Arrogance, lack of compassion, hubris, misogyny...have that affect on me. And when they are all together in one post....Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
I forgot ignorance!
Now now ES be a good girl and don't question the men with guns!
And...just for you....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOvgcAGOok
It's a new invention for moms, they are indicators for moms with multiples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
They turn brown when you change too many diapers.:eek:
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The three kids born to the crash mom ARE REPLACEMENTS. That woman was just as effing goofy as the OCTOMOM- She could have had one kid and stopped, This loon went for three at once and what else would that imply?
People are way more stupid that we give them credit for.
I have no intention of stopping as long as you continue to post your warped lies that you pass off as opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I have known women who had invitro -- and there was nothing selfish about it. After women are past a certain age the doctors implant more than one embryo because the chances are less that any will take. A friend of mine who is over 40 had five implanted. None took.
Your ignorance is astounding. But more than that is your antipathy toward women. Obviously you stopped reading this story when you had enough to castigate another woman.
Now run along and post another thread about "your perfect woman" or "valentine's day" or the like to try and cover for your misogyny.
I have a theory about men with guns but that is for another thread...:D;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
Funny video...