I also fit into all of those catergories. I've had more than one sunburn as a child one that resulted in me being extremely ill and covered in blisters for a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
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I also fit into all of those catergories. I've had more than one sunburn as a child one that resulted in me being extremely ill and covered in blisters for a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
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Originally Posted by sparks19
Seems this has already been done - at least once.
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On August 27, 2009 Abdullah Asieri, one of Saudi Arabia's most wanted men, detonated a pound of explosives apparently hidden in his rectum in an effort to assassinate Prince Mohammed Bin Nayef, head of Saudi
Arabia's counter terrorism operations. Although the attempt was unsuccessful it revealed a gaping hole in current security efforts aimed at thwarting terrorist attacks. Abdullah Asieri passed through security checks at two airports and the palace security of Prince Mohammed Bin Nayef. He then spent 30 hours in the close company of Saudi secret service agents without raising suspicion. (CBSnews.com)
The assassination attempt did not succeed but security experts have suggested the amount of explosives detonated by Abdullah Asieri would have been enough to bring down an airliner in flight.
According to Chris Yates, an aviation security consultant, the only way the explosives could have been detected is if Abdullah Asieri had been stripped naked and subject to a cavity search.
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I LOVE this -
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The ultimate idiocy is the full-body screening of the pilot. The pilot doesn't need a bomb or box cutter to bring down a plane. All he has to do is drive it into the water, like the EgyptAir pilot who crashed his plane off Nantucket while intoning "I rely on God," killing all on board.
But we must not bring that up. We pretend that we go through this nonsense as a small price paid to ensure the safety of air travel. Rubbish. This has nothing to do with safety - 95 percent of these inspections, searches, shoe removals and pat-downs are ridiculously unnecessary. The only reason we continue to do this is that people are too cowed to even question the absurd taboo against profiling - when the profile of the airline attacker is narrow, concrete, uniquely definable and universally known. So instead of seeking out terrorists, we seek out tubes of gel in stroller pouches.
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So do I.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
I'll be flying on Sunday so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
The 'radiation" quote went something like this...
A pornscan is equal of two minutes of exposure to the rads you would get at altitude.
I like to swim so I get credits banked into my account.
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Originally Posted by Grace
Awww, truth and common sense. So scarce nowadays. :)
Vitreolic, patriotic stand, fight, bright, light
Feeling pretty psyched
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No fear cavalier, renegade, steer clear
A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies
Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
And I decline
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine
I feel fine
Symbiotic patriotic slam book neck
Right? Right!
REally? This is just hunky dory because it might "protect" us? I can't imagine how humiliating that must have been for that poor woman.
http://consumerist.com/2010/11/cance...-pat-down.html
Yes I suppose she should just shut up and bare her prosthetic breast and basically have her mastectomy rubbed in her face and do as she's told
That is just sick.
All this crap is just one more good reason that I'm glad that I don't fly! :mad:
http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/11/1...lmost-blew-up/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HkfNlOu8
See,
No one ever gets hurt.
What is that all about? Neither of those had anything to do with bombs, explosives, and the like.
In the first instance, perhaps a mechanic should have "patted down" that engine before take off.
lev·i·ty [ lévvətee ]
noun
Definition:
flippancy: remarks or behavior intended to be amusing, especially when they are out of keeping with a serious occasion
[Mid-16th century. < Latin levitas< levis "light (in weight)"]
Use it in a sentence?
The plane that hit the car lost it's levity, eh?
I hope the tremendous backlash against this latest safety feature will result in a change. I am odd...I really don't mind government intrusion, I kind of feel, "well, nothing I am doing is worth their attention" and move on. I would probably let a police officer into my home to search, without a warrent, no less, as I have nothing to hide. If they told me they had a reason, and I bought it, I would let them in.
But, this? For some reason, I just can't see it. It is clear it isn't a deterrant, but something done to promote peace and tranquility in the airline industry. Don't people think any more?
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Originally Posted by Grace
The argument for these invasive procedures has been lost long ago,
judging by the responses in this thread. Maybe Richard can recite the
alphabet next, but it doesn't change people's minds.:D
I can sing them too?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Why would I want to change anyone's minds?;)
Here's the deal. NO ONE REALLY CARED OR SAID DIDDLY about the searches beforehand. Some little twerp had to record his 'tough guy' rant and go the media, then Ms. America was sexually assaulted so now we have to change everything? I guess I can along with that. WTF do I know?:confused:
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Check these photos out.
http://gizmodo.com/5690820/body-scanner-pic-gallery
Did the TSA keep the good pics for themselves?
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SALTY LANGUAGE WARNING!!
I screamed with this video.:D
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDLQPfqc04
Unfortunately, opting out of flying doesn't work for anyone traveling to any place overseas. We don't really want to go back to ship travel now do we?
This is terrible. The American public should take a stand against this. Maybe if we all boycott travel, the airline industry would lose business, and the government would come back to their senses and get rid of these terrible machines and molesting pat downs.
The chances of dying in a plane crash are much higher than dying because of some idiot with evil intentions. Flying is always a risk. Get real. The security system after 911 was doing a great job. What was the point of adding this nonsense?
Well other countries have been doing this for years, I had this done in the middle east 10 years ago. I think the United States got too lax and now they are going too far the other way.
I think there must be some threats we aren't hearing about, I think they don't want to get everyone up in arms. I personally would just opt for the scanner.
LOTS of people were complaining about this before that guy said "don't touch my junk"
This has been a topic of conversation since everyone found out that this would be the new policy.
9/11.
box cuttersQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
9/11Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
box cutters
12/13
(am I playing this right?):D
I wasn't aware this was a game - except maybe to the nuts with the box cutters.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Richard put down 9/11 - I'm not sure why. I said box cutters because that was the weapon of choice on that date. They should/would have been seen by a metal detector.
I should have stayed out of it. I think he's just trying to make a point about body scans and pat downs.
Perhaps if the United States had kept their noses out of every other country's business over the years, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Grace
It isn't you that's playing games here. Sorry if I left that impression Grace.
That was not my intention. My apologies.
and the reason they got on the plane with the box cutters was not because of a defect or inefficiency with the TSA screening equipment... it was because box cutters were allowed. I guess they figured nothing bad could happen from box cutters
The thing that gets me (I'd laugh if it weren't such a scary thought) is we are willing to implement these intrusive measures that are basically stripping us (no pun intended) of our rights to look for something the hijackers on 9/11 NEVER EVEN USED when that event is supposedly what we are being saved from
They didn't use BOMBS. There has not been a successful airplane BOMBING since the 80s. if we are SO afraid of bomings then why didn't they start doing this in the 80's when there were ACTUAL BOMBINGS?
it's unreal how AFRAID people are of something that hasn't even happened in over 20 years (in the US) that they are willing to give up their bodies for the illusion of safety.
So WHAT exactly justifies this unbelievable infringement of peoples rights and privacy?
The reason I said, "9/11"?
That was the answer to the woman in the cartoon.
She asked why she had to go thru a security screening and the TSA worker's answer was 9/11.
Plus my president spoke from Portugal and he said the patdowns were OK.
Since he is in charge, I believe him.:)
Guess there's a first time for everything. Someone take note, on November 20, 2010, Richard believes in the current President http://bestsmileys.com/writer/2.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
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What woman, in what cartoon?
I always believe in the current president. It's when they try to act 'political' that they scare me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
This woman in this video/cartoon.
Again, Salty language warning.....
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDLQPfqc04
No need for you to apologize, liz. I shouldn't have snapped back at you as I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Your first sentence says it all :)
How often do the TSA agents change those latex gloves? If they are groping passengers, they should be changed between each victim - think of the exchange of germs and possibly bugs http://bestsmileys.com/sick/9.gif
Your TSA agents in action -
Isn't he cute - just the right look for patting down
There is no way I could handle the pat down. Being a rape victim I can;t handle strangers touching me. I will go into a huge panic attack. I don't like the idea of the scan either for similar reasons. Knowing a stranger is looking at my naked body agianst my will would also most likely send me into a panic, though probably not as sever as the pat down. So I would most likely choose the scan. Thank goodness I don't fly often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
But for Doug the radiation is the issue. He was born blind in one eye and has limited vision in the other. He can see with a strong contact lense. There is no way he would agree to the scanner and risk his one good eye.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...rches/19728594
Barack could have combined his Health Care plan with airline travel.
A colonoscopy with every airline ticket.
Those who are exempt -
Who is exempt from airport security?
By Ed O'Keefe
Increased scrutiny of airport security means public officials are being asked if they have or would be willing to endure airport security pat-downs.
"Not if I could avoid it. I mean, who would?" Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told CBS on Sunday. But Clinton, who travels on government aircraft with a large security detail, is a rare exception.
Here's a review of who can and cannot bypass airport security, according to the Transportation Security Administration and conversations with congressional and Obama administration aides:
Members of Congress: Congressional leaders who are assigned a security detail, including the speaker of the House, the House minority leader and the Senate majority leader, are allowed to pass through airport security checkpoints when flying commercial jets, according to the TSA. All other members of Congress are expected to stand in line and wait.
And lawmakers are no stranger to the potential embarrassments of airport security: Screeners ordered Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) to pull down his pants at Reagan National Airport in 2002 after a knee brace, surgically implanted pins in his ankles and a steel hip joint set off metal detectors. Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) last year cursed at Salt Lake City airport security screeners and claimed he was unfairly targeted for voting against collective bargaining rights for transportation security officers.
Government officials: President Obama, Vice President Biden and Cabinet secretaries who travel on government aircraft or with security details (Clinton and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates) obviously don't pass through security checkpoints.
Former presidents flying commercial with Secret Service agents, Cabinet secretaries who use commercial aviation and travel with bodyguards and some foreign ambassadors also traveling with guards are exempt from screening, according to the TSA and congressional aides. Cabinet secretaries without protection and other senior government officials flying commercial must be screened.
Members of the military: Members of the military traveling in uniform must pass through security checkpoints but are not required to remove their footwear unless it sets off a metal detector, according to the TSA. The agency also allows airlines to issue special access passes to military family members who are not flying but want to say goodbye or greet a loved one at the gate.
Law enforcement officers: State, local and tribal police officers who must fly with a firearm have to obtain an identifier code from the TSA before flying. The officer must present the code and law enforcement credentials before passing through security.
Don't you just feel safer already :)
I love this guy from mythbusters haha
http://consumerist.com/2010/11/adam-...ng-weapon.html
After flying to L.A. and back this past week, I didn't have to go through a scanner or the pat down. It was all random. However, when I checked in, the airline personnel didn't ask to see my ID and she didn't even look at me once, not even a sideways glance.
There is no radiation. It is not an xray it'a a magnetQuote:
Originally Posted by NicoleLJ