Men....ugh.

[Karen]

I have seen women and men equally offend in this matter.

At least these days, if the couple splits and the father WANTS custody, he has a shot at getting it, I have friend who were put in foster care and an orphanage because when their parents split and mother didn't want the kids, the court refused to give them to the dad because he worked, and wouldn't be home all day - even though the kids were school-aged.

[RICHARD]

I was more irked that he was dismissive of the child, "No, you don't want any candy...." as opposed to speaking to her and explaining why she was not getting any.

His comments about her being pregnant for the first time and the kids 'getting worse' as they grow older was just plain insensitive.

Here's a gal that's probably excited about having a kid, and this knucklehead makes her feel badly.

I know that kids are a handful - I just thought his comments weren't polite.

[Cataholic]

I was more irked that he was dismissive of the child, "No, you don't want any candy...." as opposed to speaking to her and explaining why she was not getting any.

His comments about her being pregnant for the first time and the kids 'getting worse' as they grow older was just plain insensitive.

Here's a gal that's probably excited about having a kid, and this knucklehead makes her feel badly.

I know that kids are a handful - I just thought his comments weren't polite.

I wasn't there. I can share with you that sometimes child can get a little, uh, whiny, when it comes to candy. Maybe he knows that engaging in dialogue only gives reason for the child to continue? I know with J, a stern, "no, we are not getting candy today" one time and no further acknowledgment, works better than explaning several times.

Many people of both genders have to work today. They have to work for different reasons, or <gasp> cause they like to. Women have made huge advancements in terms of education, employment and social equality, if you will. 50 years ago, it was, IMO, a bleaker life for women. They either stayed home with their children or took on traditional "female" roles (nursing or teaching). Often times, these women elected not to have children. Good for them, if that is what they wanted.

[wombat2u2004]

the court refused to give them to the dad because he worked, and wouldn't be home all day - even though the kids were school-aged.

That wouldn't happen here.

[Cataholic]

That wouldn't happen here.

I believe Karen is referring to the way it used to be. Not currently.

[Puckstop31]

"Men" who say that children are the 'worst thing that can happen from sex', have no idea what they are missing.

I cannot put into words what my daughter makes me feel. Love without end, fear, worry, joy....

I understand what a privilidge it is to be entrusted with raising a soul. Said that so many others don't.

[RICHARD]

"Men" who say that children are the 'worst thing that can happen from sex', have no idea what they are missing.

I cannot put into words what my daughter makes me feel. Love without end, fear, worry, joy....

I understand what a privilidge it is to be entrusted with raising a soul. Said that so many others don't.

You made my point.

I probably have no right to have commented on the conversation that I heard...I understand that this dude was probably not in a good mood about the situation.

I know enough about human nature and raising kids to know that it may have been a 'bad day' for him? But, how can you dimiss your kid by telling them 'no' in a cranky manner, and in almost the same sentence, make someone feel that a life changing event for them is nothing but a PITA?

I understand there are different sides to this story, but I do feel that his comments were rude and uncalled for.

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IT would be like having someone walk up to you and your Toyota and saying something like, "Hey your car has a dangerously sticky gas pedal!"