"Snuppy"

[Muddy4paws]

I was reading this today, Dont get me wrong I hated saying goodbye to my RB dogs but I really think this is too wrong.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...50719,,00.html


(It's work safe )

[Suki Wingy]

Beautiful Afgan! and a great scientific breakthrough!

[lv4dogs]

I think its wrong too, very wrong. Oh I could list a zillion reason behind it but I'm sparing me & you.

I don't understand it. They made an afghan with a labs egg. Even if it was unfertilized wouldn't it still be part lab?

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Originally posted by lv4dogs
I don't understand it. They made an afghan with a labs egg. Even if it was unfertilized wouldn't it still be part lab?

No, because there is no DNA of the Lab in the egg, just of the Afgan. They take out the nucleus from the unfertilized egg of the Lab, so it's just a cell, and then they replace it with a nucleus from one of the Afgan's skin cells. So, that makes it 100% Afgan DNA.

.. Or something like that, lol. It's hard to explain. Of course, doing this rarely works.

I'm not so sure if I agree with cloning animals or not. I think the money people spend in order to try to "bring" their deceased pet back could be put to much better use. How many animals in shelters could be saved with the amount of money these people are spending hoping it will work? It's not even the same animal, anyway, but to each their own I suppose..

[vinjashira]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
It's not even the same animal, anyway, but to each their own I suppose..

You're quite right. Take two identical twin sisters for example (twins are natural clone to each other) eventhough they may look so much like each other they are their own individuals, aren't they?

[lv4dogs]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
No, because there is no DNA of the Lab in the egg, just of the Afgan. They take out the nucleus from the unfertilized egg of the Lab, so it's just a cell, and then they replace it with a nucleus from one of the Afgan's skin cells. So, that makes it 100% Afgan DNA.

.. Or something like that, lol. It's hard to explain. Of course, doing this rarely works.

It worked I understand! I didn't know they removed the necleus.
But still, isn't there SOME DNA or something passing through the umbilical cord or something?

[Almita]

that is so wrong!

[anna_66]

Sorry to say, but I don't think it's wrong. If we could afford it, we'd try to clone Angus in a heartbeat.
Of course it wouldn't be him, but it sure would look like him.

[luvofallhorses]

I just think it's wrong!

[vinjashira]

Originally posted by lv4dogs
It worked I understand! I didn't know they removed the necleus.
But still, isn't there SOME DNA or something passing through the umbilical cord or something?

no there isn't, the same way a surrogate mother do not pass her DNA to the baby she is carrying...

[Muddy4paws]

I just think its all wrong personally, I can understand why some people would like to do this but I personally wouldnt want my memories of my RB dog relived through another dog, It would be a constant reminder of what I've lost, I think they should be left in peace when they go, it would just all be too weird after knowing my dog was gone and then he's clone is back again I find it all quite creepy.

ugh I feel like crying

[Iilo]

I think it's wise for all of you to remember that this particular animal was cloned specifically for scientific research.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Originally posted by lv4dogs
It worked I understand! I didn't know they removed the necleus.
But still, isn't there SOME DNA or something passing through the umbilical cord or something?

Nope, it's not possible. Once they have the cell they want, and they make it divide into hundreds of the same cells and they stick them back inside of the Lab, there's no way that it can become anything else.

[CagneyDog]

Originally posted by Iilo
I think it's wise for all of you to remember that this particular animal was cloned specifically for scientific research.

Poor dog..

[Iilo]

Originally posted by CagneyDog
Poor dog..

Actually, that poor dog in question, though I'm not sure which one you're talking about.... the dog that they got the DNA from is a well loved Afghan Hound...

The puppy is IMPRESSIVE. And it's not like he's being treated like a specimen in a lab.

"Contrast to Tai’s gentleness character, SNUppy is very active dog with really spoiled manner. He is always so bright and burning with curiosity.

Tai is finicky eater but SNUppy loves all kind of foods." - from a yahoo Affie list, directly from the owner of both Tai and SNUppy.

This dog was not cloned for pleasure. It wasn't, "Oh, dear, I won't be able to deal with Fido's death. I'll get an exact carbon copy." Because, as we all know, a clone will carry the PERSONALITY of whoever it got the DNA from. NOT.

This dog was cloned for research. To further our knowledge and perhaps make it so we can clone human stem cells. And what a great day it will be when scientists will be able to do research without ignorant people trying to prevent them from saving lives.