my friend wants a PETSTORE puppy!

[lute]

i went to Petland with my friend the other day. she just got a rat terrier from a really nice breeder. when we were in the petstore her mom saw a sheltie she wanted and asked to see it. the employee kept talking about how my friend should always have atleast two puppies because puppies get bored and lonely, and can get sick if they are too lonely.

when the employee was feeding my friend's mother this CRAP i was getting madder and madder! i almost blew up in her face. i wanted to yell at her and ask her why on earth she was saying this! I wanted so bad to take that employee to a puppy mill!

after we left i informed my friend about puppy mills. she was shocked. i sent her an e-mail with pics. this is what i sent...


Megan,
i said i'd send you pics of puppymils. this is where ALL petstore puppies come from. so when you buy a petstore puppy, remember it's parents are still in the puppymill!

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/kgaeding...picsmills.html

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Dogpictures/2156584.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Dogpi...re_cages_1.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/CindyH/hellhole7.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/CindyH/hellhole4.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/PMdogs/MainKennelugh.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/testing/23821.gif

here are two shelties(like the one you wanted to buy at petland)- http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Novem...es/Kennel7.jpg

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Novem...es/Kennel5.jpg

i know it's sad,and there are plenty more pics i could get for you. if i was rude about you even thinking of buying that sheltie,i'm sorry. but this is why. i hope you understand.
wuv ya,Lexie


what do ya think?

[lute]

bump

[lv4dogs]

I think that will help.

Also mention that having 2 puppies at the same time is very very very hard to do. training 2 pups at the same time is outragously ridiculous (not saying that noone should have 2 pups at the same time but it is only for the advanced dog owner)

Also tell her that most of the time you can get a healthy, well bred dog from a breeder for about the same price, some breeders are even cheaper than some pet stores.

Have her speek w/ trainers, vets & pet owners that have had multiple pets before she considers getting a puppy mill pup & 2 pups at the same time

[cocker_luva]

Originally posted by lute
. this is where ALL petstore puppies come from. so when you buy a petstore puppy, remember it's parents are still in the puppymill!

thats not always true!!! my girl is from a petstore, after we bought her we eventually met and visited her breeder. who is in fact a showdog breeder!!! not a backyard breeder!!! she said that she had trouble selling jess so her friend, who owned the store, offered to help. i am glad she did.

[Shelteez2]

Thank you for trying to educate your friend. Hopefully she learns something.
You may also want to give her this link which describes the downsides of trying to raise two puppies at once.
Double Trouble

[aly]

Originally posted by lute
the employee kept talking about how my friend should always have atleast two puppies because puppies get bored and lonely, and can get sick if they are too lonely.

Geez, what an ignorant person. I find it disturbing that they are working in a pet store and giving such bogus advice. That person couldn't be any further from the truth!

When adopting a puppy, the humans who adopt the pup are responisble for training and keeping him/her entertained, exercised, and happy. You don't buy another puppy and throw them in the backyard (or wherever) to keep each other company!!

At the shelter every day, I am constantly trying to dispel the myth that 2 puppies are easier than one. It could go in many different directions. Yes, it could work out, I'm not denying that at all. But there are chances of the pups overbonding and ignoring the humans. Also, on the other end of the spectrum, there could be LOTS of sibling rivalry due to the similarities in size, age, and possibly sex. If a person is truly committed to their dogs, they could bring up 2 puppies together, BUT the way this employee is saying it is all wrong. Pet store employees should be educating people on how to train their dogs and build bonds before adding other puppies. This just sickens me.

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I had to get that off my chest.

[petlover]

I don't get it. It seems like you would WANT to take the puppy if you knew that it came from a puppy mill! I mean, poor thing. Are you mad at the fact that it MIGHT have came from a puppy mill, or that your friend wants two puppies? I don't think ALL petstore puppies are from puppy mills.. accually I know for a fact that a majority of them are NOT from puppy mills. Very sad pics thought. That should just MAKE HER WANT TO GET IT MORE. If that poor thing accually was in a puppy mill ( which I doubt), then I would definately want to get it. Give it the good life it never had. It is just like SAVING one.. so you are saying that you shouldn't SAVE puppy mill puppies and dogs? If so, I TOTALLY disagree with you all. TOTALLY. If I didn't have any dogs ( or not as many) then I would most certainly rescue a PUPPY MILL PUPPY OR DOG.

[aly]

I am sure all of us feel bad for puppy mill dogs and wish we could save them all. The thought behind not adopting puppy mill dogs is you are not supporting the puppy millers who are producing dogs at alarming rates. If people stop taking the dogs, the puppy mills will stop making money and be forced to stop breeding.

[lv4dogs]

Well said Aly!


And yes most pet store animals are from either mills or BYB. Even stores that say they get their dogs from breeders, they are 99.9% of the time talking about back yard breeders.

I don't care what you say but any reputable breeder that I have ever met (personally or on the net or by phone or letter, talked to or heard of would never ever put one of their loved pups in a pet store.
even back yard breeders can get lucky & end up having a show dog some out of the litter.
Reputable responsible breeders ussually don't even breed unless they already have homes lined up for the pups, and secondly expect to keep the ones that the owners back out of, or return.

[lute]

thats not always true!!! my girl is from a petstore, after we bought her we eventually met and visited her breeder. who is in fact a showdog breeder!!! not a backyard breeder!!!

i guess i should have been specific. i've read proof that all puppies that go to the "PETLAND" petstores are puppymill pups. sorry if i upset you.

the reason i'm against her having two puppies is because she got two rat terrier pups from the same litter and she said it took too much time to train them. so she sold them and one of them died within a week because it was killed by it's new owner.she has even considerd getting rid of this new pup too. i offered to let her borrow some books magazines, and videos on how to raise and train a puppy. and she said she doesn't want to use them.you have to remember that all this has happend within the past 2 months!!

she had a fish for a while and got bored with it and just flushed it cause she didnt want it anymore.

[K9soul]

That is indeed a sad situation. It would be hard not to feel very emotional watching all that happen. I wish the best for all the poor dogs involved

[petlover]

Originally posted by aly
I am sure all of us feel bad for puppy mill dogs and wish we could save them all. The thought behind not adopting puppy mill dogs is you are not supporting the puppy millers who are producing dogs at alarming rates. If people stop taking the dogs, the puppy mills will stop making money and be forced to stop breeding.

Oh! Now I get it! Please forgive me everyone.. I am still very young and learning!

[aly]

Originally posted by petlover
Oh! Now I get it! Please forgive me everyone.. I am still very young and learning!

Its quite okay. I totally understand why you said what you did. It is hard to see dogs in such horrid conditions and not want to grab them all and get them out of there

[Pam]

The links you provided will certainly give her some food for thought. I know when I am in the mall I am compelled to look at the puppies there and I leave with such a heavy feeling knowing that their parents are all back at the puppy mills living absolute horrible lives in the most awful conditions.

Aly, I have a question for you. I have always wondered about this and haven't posted it before because maybe I don't even want to really know. Do you, or does anyone else here, know what happens to the puppies that the pet stores can't sell? Do they wind up in shelters or do they end up being euthanized. I guess one would need to actually know a pet store employee to know the answer to that question. Given those choices, I certainly hope they at least wind up at a shelter.

[CamCamPup33]

Originally posted by lute
i guess i should have been specific. i've read proof that all puppies that go to the "PETLAND" petstores are puppymill pups. sorry if i upset you.

This isn't always true either. Cami came from petland and we met her breeder, she is no backyard breeder at all. She also shows her dogs and everything.

Although, if i had to do it again, would i buy from the same pet store? No. It just so happen that cami's breeder was a responsible breeder, but what about the others? So if i could do it over, i wouldn't, but if i had a choice to adopt or buy... Adopt. Definitly..

I don't want you guys to think that i support puppy-mill's because i don't at all, but i didn't know at the time when we did buy cami..

Those pictures..