Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 71

Thread: Tony Blaire - Look at the Internet

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Posts
    330

    Tony Blaire - Look at the Internet

    Please don't get too upset by this, it's only a point of view!

    Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please?

    Why is the British Prime Minister the only person who seems to be unaware of the US hawks' agenda.

    Terry Jones Sunday March 2, 2003 The Observer

    It's heart-warming to hear Tony Blair's concern for the plight of the Iraqi people and how the only possible way to help them is to bomb them with everything the Americans have.

    Mr Blair's sudden sympathy for the Iraqis' political aspirations comes as a welcome relief after all these years of US, UK-led sanctions, which have caused the deaths of over half a million Iraqi children, according to the UN.

    But I'm a bit worried that Tony may be deluding himself that his friends in the White House share his altruistic ideals. I'm sure Tony has been reading all the recent stuff about PNAC - "The Project For The New American Century" - but has he looked at their website? (www.newamericancentury.org)

    As everybody knows, the PNAC is a think-tank founded in 1997 by the people who are now closest to President Bush - Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush and so on. It's a pretty safe bet that what PNAC think is what George W. Bush thinks. PNAC represents the thinking of the men now in power in the United States.

    PNAC's stated aims are to: "to shape a new century favourable to American principles and interests", to achieve "a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad", "to increase defence spending significantly", and to pursue "America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles."

    They don't split hairs at the PNAC. George W. Bush and his advisers' stated aim is to ensure that America and American interests dominate the entire world for the foreseeable future. And what's more they make no bones of the fact that they intend to achieve this without diplomacy - that's old hat. What PNAC intend to do is enforce the Pax Americana through military might.

    Does Tony Blair know that? Has Tony Blair read the PNAC Report called "Rebuilding Americas Defenses 2000"? It refers to the new technologies of warfare and goes on: "Potential rivals such as China are anxious to exploit these transformational technologies broadly, while adversaries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea are rushing to develop ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons as a deterrent to American intervention in regions they seek to dominate."

    So when George Bush and his colleagues talk about Saddam Hussein posing a "threat" to America - they don't mean he's going to drop bombs on Washington (how on earth could he without committing national suicide?) - what they mean is that he poses a threat to American military dominance in the Middle East.

    Does Tony Blair know that's what they mean?

    In fact, does Tony Blair know that President Bush's advisers regard Saddam Hussein as merely an excuse for military action in the area? The PNAC Report of 2000 states: "the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

    So Iraq is merely "the immediate justification" and Saddam's regime is not so important as establishing American military might in the Gulf.

    Does Tony Blair know that?

    If he has read PNAC's Report he knows that he is simply aiding US right-wing militarism and extremist Republican plans for world domination. Surely in such a cause he would not be prepared to expose the British people to the nightmare of permanent terrorist threats and attacks. Surely for such a cause he would not be prepared to set fire to the Middle East, to destabilize the entire world for the foreseeable future and - most important perhaps - to risk his own political neck by pursuing an evil and almost universally despised policy.

    On the other hand, if Tony Blair, has not read "Rebuilding Americas Defenses 2000" or gone to the PNAC website to learn exactly what motivates Rumsfeld, Cheney, Perle and Wolfowitz, and so on then why the hell hasn't he?

    Go to your computer now, Mr. Blair. Look at the reality behind all this sanctimonious wringing of hands over the plight of the Iraqi people. Read what your American Republican friends are really intending. Please.

    Terry Jones writes regularly for The Observer. To all those readers who have written in to ask if this Terry Jones had anything to do with Monty Python, the answer is yes

    "Peace cannot be achieved through violence,
    it can only be attained through understanding."
    Albert Einstein

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Washington D.C.
    Posts
    2,086
    Thank you, Jonza. This is exactly what I was trying to bring up in some other threads. These two words bring a chill to my heart: Pax Americana.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Kentucky, LAND OF THE EASILY AMUSED
    Posts
    25,224

    Re: Tony Blaire - Look at the Internet

    Originally posted by jonza
    Please don't get too upset by this, it's only a point of view!

    Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please?

    Why is the British Prime Minister the only person who seems to be unaware of the US hawks' agenda.

    Mr Blair's sudden sympathy for the Iraqis' political aspirations comes as a welcome relief after all these years of US, UK-led sanctions, which have caused the deaths of over half a million Iraqi children, according to the UN.


    yep the evil united states killed all these people .....
    as for taking over the world, don't worry denmark is way way down on our list, the "kick ass and take over denmark' tour dates have not been given out yet......i'll post them when they become available. wanna back stage pass??
    The secret of life is nothing at all
    -faith hill

    Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all -
    Together we stand
    Divided we fall.

    I laugh, therefore? I am.

    No humans were hurt during the posting of this message.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Washington D.C.
    Posts
    2,086
    Hmmm. Some people actually care about the rest of the world and not only their country. It's a strange habit, indeed.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Posts
    330
    Sorry Richard!
    I was naive enough to think that we could possibly get a semi-intelligent discussion out of it.

    john

    "Peace cannot be achieved through violence,
    it can only be attained through understanding."
    Albert Einstein

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Ft. Wayne, IN
    Posts
    7,464
    Gee, why not add a little sarcastic humor to an article that is obviously meant to anger 75% of Americans? A ridiculous article deserves a ridiculous response. Just a proud American's humble opinion.


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Washington D.C.
    Posts
    2,086
    So, America cannot be criticised? Why would you be offended by our government's failures? Isn't that something a patriot would want altered?

    This should not be personal. When someone criticises Bush and his administration, I see no reason why people should get so emotional and offended by it. It's something we need to THINK about as citizens, so we can help fix things.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Ft. Wayne, IN
    Posts
    7,464
    I think that a true patriot would be offended for attacks against his country. I wish Terry Jones would stick to Monty Python, since he's a lot funnier there.


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Washington D.C.
    Posts
    2,086
    My idea of patriotism is a little different. It goes like this:

    A true patriot listens to the world. Because no country exists in a vacuum.

    A true patriot is offended by unfair, unfounded accusations that hold no water.

    A true patriot listens to legitimate criticism in an attempt to hold their politicians accountable to true American ideals.

    A true patriot is big enough to know when their country has gone down the wrong path, is not afraid to admit it, and actually does something to change it.

    Here's what I DON'T believe what a patriot is:

    A patriot does not say "my country right or wrong" and let their country go down the toilet in the process.

    A patriot does not put a leader before the country.

    A patriot does not seek to silence others for a differing opinion.

    A patriot does not close their eyes and ears to the truth.

    A patriot does not refuse to stand back and look at things from a new perspective.

    A patriot does not stand by while its freedoms and values are being taken away.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Ottawa, Canada
    Posts
    686

    Re: Re: Tony Blaire - Look at the Internet

    Originally posted by RICHARD
    yep the evil united states killed all these people .....
    as for taking over the world, don't worry denmark is way way down on our list, the "kick ass and take over denmark' tour dates have not been given out yet......i'll post them when they become available. wanna back stage pass??
    LMAO I think I've seen those tour dates and Switzerland and Lichenstein are right before Denmark
    Tanya, Hans, Fritz & Sparky





  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    San Diego, California USA
    Posts
    4,856
    Here's what I think, if a Patriot is so unhappy with their government, with their leader, and knows the country has gone down the path, then they should go to a little insignificant country like Denmark, learn the language, hope for the best, and start all over. Personally I'll take Britain and the United States just the way they are.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy


  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    32,499
    "Patriotism," being a totally subjective concept, defies definition, except unto oneself. One man's traitor is another man's patriot, and vice versa. The Revolutionary War's Minutemen branded themselves patriots, while King George labled them traitors. I'm sure suicide bombers, strapping bombs to their backs and detenating them on crowded buses, fulfill someones definition of "patriotism," though not mine. Perhaps for your consideration...a patriot is one who has the strength of his convicitons? The validity or lack validity of those convictions is the subjectively viewed, arguable, and very personal precept at the core of the dilemma. Just a thought.
    Last edited by tatsxxx11; 03-29-2003 at 11:00 AM.

    Star,Tigg'r , Mollie and the10 Gallon Gang!

    And my Rainbow Bridge Furangels...Jingles, Cody, Fritz, Chessa, Satin, Buddy, Lizzie, Oliver, Squeaker, Moonbeam, Rosie, Ruby~

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Posts
    12,662
    Originally posted by Soledad
    Hmmm. Some people actually care about the rest of the world and not only their country. It's a strange habit, indeed.
    How could you watch what is happening to the people of Iraq under the dictatorship of this madman and NOT care about another country. I think to stand back and do nothing is morally wrong.

    Jackie and Sandra you took the words right out of my mouth!

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    U.K.
    Posts
    150
    Speaking from the UK and can only say our country is divided...... there certainly isn't the patritotism that you americans are showing.

    Even our foreign minister resigned when Blair announced we were going to war.

    I don't know if it happened in the US but here the anti-war marches were HUGE which to men signified the intentions of the ordinary people. I'm a final year university student and if the marches hadn't been when my dissertation was due I would have joined them, as would most of the people I know (and I am a normal person not some strange fanatic).

    Whilst we all wish that everyone comes out of this safely a lot of us do not support the war.

    I certainly won't be voting for Tony Blair ever again, not that I did before! I'd like to see him out on the front line.

    As for moving country, when this all blew up I thought of moving to the neutral Switzerland.

    Sarah
    Happy to help

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Wylie, Texas USA
    Posts
    5,169

    Re: Tony Blaire - Look at the Internet

    Originally posted by jonza
    If he has read PNAC's Report he knows that he is simply aiding US right-wing militarism and extremist Republican plans for world domination. Surely in such a cause he would not be prepared to expose the British people to the nightmare of permanent terrorist threats and attacks. Surely for such a cause he would not be prepared to set fire to the Middle East, to destabilize the entire world for the foreseeable future and - most important perhaps - to risk his own political neck by pursuing an evil and almost universally despised policy.
    Oh, yeah, we're taking over the world. (wrings hands together in the usual evil way) bwaaa haaa haaa!!!!!

    Did you really think there would be a semi-intelligent discussion about this? C'mon, it's hilarious!

Similar Threads

  1. Tony
    By Pawsitive Thinking in forum Today's Dog
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 02-20-2008, 08:30 PM
  2. Tony, Day, and Night
    By CatCaper in forum Cat General
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-04-2004, 02:42 PM
  3. Tony the cat
    By zookeeperinaltha in forum Cat General
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-29-2004, 11:03 AM
  4. Tony
    By kimlovescats in forum Cat General
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 01-29-2004, 05:16 PM
  5. Tony Blaire and the pixies
    By jonza in forum Dog House
    Replies: 120
    Last Post: 04-04-2003, 09:18 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Copyright © 2001-2013 Pet of the Day.com