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    Honor Killings???

    Iraqi girl's horrific death
    Teen's slaying at the hands of a mob highlights religious intolerance that pervades the nation

    By Tina Susman
    Tribune Newspapers
    Published May 22, 2007


    BAGHDAD — The video is shaky, but the brutality is clear.

    A slender, black-haired girl is dragged in a headlock through a braying mob of men. Within seconds, she is on the ground in a fetal position, covering her head in her arms in a futile attempt to fend off a shower of stones.

    Someone slams a concrete block onto the back of her head. A river of blood oozes from beneath her long, tangled hair. The girl stops moving, but the kicks and the rocks keep coming, as do the victorious shouts of the men delivering them.

    In the eyes of many in her community in northern Iraq, 17-year-old Duaa Khalil Aswad's crime was to love a boy from another religion. She was a Yazidi, an insular religious sect. He was a Sunni Muslim. To Aswad's uncle and cousins, that was reason enough to put her to death last month in the village of Bashiqa.

    Women's groups say the video shows Iraq's backward slide as religious and ethnic intolerance takes hold.

    "There is a new Taliban controlling the lives of women in Iraq," said Hanaa Edwar, a women's activist with the Iraqi Al-Amal Association a non-governmental group in Baghdad. "I think this story will be absolutely repeated again. I believe if security is not controlled, such stories will be very common."

    The case has far broader dimensions in Iraq, where anger arising from it points to the ethnic, religious and sectarian discord that colors virtually every issue here—even a girl's killing.

    That anger has been fueled by the release of the video images, made with a cell phone, that appeared on the Internet and that over the weekend was the focus of a CNN report.

    Kurds, who include Yazidis, suspect Sunni Arabs of circulating the gruesome images to fuel anger against Yazidis and undermine the Kurdish community, which exercises a degree of autonomy in northern Iraq and is seeking more.

    "It seems they are trying to make it big for political purposes," said Mohsen Gargari, a Kurdish member of parliament.

    In an interview, he and two other Kurdish lawmakers condemned Aswad's killing. But they noted that in February a Sunni woman had been killed by relatives for having a relationship with a Yazidi man. "Nobody talked about it. Nobody filmed it or turned it into a big issue," he said.



    UN: 'Honor killings' on rise
    In a report released last month, the United Nations said so-called honor killings of women were on the rise in Iraq. In January and February alone, according to the report, at least 40 women had been killed for alleged "immoral conduct," which can range from sitting in a car with a man who is not a relative to adultery.

    Unlike Aswad's death, none was known to have caused revenge attacks.

    Two weeks after the April 7 stoning, gunmen dragged more than 20 Yazidi men off a bus in the northern city of Mosul, about 20 miles south of Bashiqa, lined them up against a wall and gunned them down. The next day, a Sunni insurgent group linked to Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for a car bombing that targeted the offices of a Kurdish political party in northern Iraq, saying it was to avenge the death of Aswad.

    "We are expecting more violence, but we already have paid the price," said Mahama Shangali, a Yazidi member of parliament.

    Shangali said three of his cousins had been killed recently in Mosul, home to a large Yazidi community. Edan Ashaik, a Yazidi living in Mosul, said that in the past month followers of the sect had been warned by Arabs to leave the city. Yazidi college students have fled the university there for fear of being attacked.

    "I have to repeat my courses next year or go in disguise to take the exams," said Amal Jibor, a 23-year-old would-be university graduate who said she and her family had left Mosul and were living with relatives in a cramped house in Bashiqa. Jibor said most Yazidis opposed the stoning death, but she echoed the politicians' view that the case is being exploited.

    "It was an ordinary problem, but it was made use of and was fabricated into a political cause," Jibor said.

    Shangali and many Yazidis, as well as non-Yazidi Kurds, are convinced that the circulation of the video is part of a plot to drive a wedge in the Kurdish community of northern Iraq. They say this would hamper the ability of Kurds to pass a referendum planned for this year on autonomy for some northern areas, including the city of Kirkuk and disputed lands bordering the semi-autonomous Kurdistan region. Sunni Arabs oppose Kurdish autonomy and oppose holding the referendum.

    "In order to prevent this from happening, they have used this to unite opposition to the Yazidis," Shangali said. Asked who "they" are, Shangali cited hard-line supporters of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Arab whose campaign to "Arabize" much of northern Iraq led to displacement of hundreds of thousands of Kurds.


    Reprisal got more attention
    Accounts of what happened to Aswad vary, but some things are clear. She had begun a relationship with a young Sunni Arab. In an effort to separate the two, and apparently to protect Aswad from an enraged uncle and cousins, her father took her to a Yazidi clergyman's house in Bashiqa. Aswad remained there for a week until April 7, when the uncle and at least two male cousins abducted the girl.

    A family member who did not want to be identified said Duaa Aswad's father, Khaleel Aswad, tried to prevent the killing and had accused his brother, Saleem Aswad, of orchestrating it. Gen. Wathiq Hamdani of the local police said Saleem Aswad was one of several people being sought in connection with the stoning.

    The story of the stoning still has received relatively little attention in Iraq. The news of the killing of the Yazidi men two weeks later in apparent retaliation for Duaa Aswad's death drew more attention from the local media. Iraqi women say that's a sign of the country's obsession with the sectarian and political implications of violence at the expense of concern about women's rights, and particularly a girl's death.

    "I am really sorry that we have turned to processing issues this way," said Ghasan Alyas, a Yazidi teacher living in Bashiqa.

    "Some say that external forces are behind what happened," she said, referring to the accusations of Arab meddling. "But I think this is an illusion. The thought of a third party invisibly involved in whatever is happening is just a way of excusing ourselves and our ignorant culture from its responsibilities."
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    one of my my moslem patients told me about this this morning. what kind of religious faith needs to keep women in such subservience that this is right?
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    Hmmmm.

    Time to arm Muslim women.

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    Gee, a nice .357 magnum with 38 hollow points comes to mind, aimed preferably at the crotch region.

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    I'm thinking Hamarabi's Law...that works...

    Those idiots don't know what they are doing. I won't post what I really think should happen.


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    More pain, suffering and death have happened due to peoples reglious beliefs then any other. Wars are mostly the result of reglious beliefs. How frigging sad is that?

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    Wars are mostly the result of economic and population problems which are frequently twisted to appear to be religious. Prime examples? The Crusades and the current issues in the Middle East.

    A good demagogue can make people believe damned near anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Wars are mostly the result of economic and population problems which are frequently twisted to appear to be religious. Prime examples? The Crusades and the current issues in the Middle East.

    LH, what makes you think you have the one unasailable, true answer to
    the reasons behind the crusades? Many learned scholars have studied this
    subject & most can't yet agree on all the reasons.
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    The Crusades had much more to do with economic issues (What in heck do we do with young nobles who cannot inherit anything, for one) than religion. Most serious studies of the Crusades focus on the economic reasons for the wars as opposed to the religious reasons, which are hard to separate because of the amount of control the Catholic church had on the European economy.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    A good demagogue can make people believe damned near anything.
    Are you talking about the Bush Administration and the selling of the Invasion of Iraq?

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    LH....are you telling me that I am responsible for the Crusades?? I AM Catholic after all!!

    I believe that the demagogue in question could be any of the leaders in any of the countries in the Midde East who have to have complete control over everything and make women subservient.

    While Bush is a flaming, screaming, idiot, I don't think he quite qualifies as a demagogue.

    I just wish those people the same fate that they to which they subjected that poor, innocent girl.


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    Mugsy,

    I have a hard time calling the Papacy during the crusades the leadership part of the "catholic" church. Falls under the same heading as OBL claiming to be the the Caliph.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mugsy
    While Bush is a flaming, screaming, idiot, I don't think he quite qualifies as a demagogue.
    I agree with you Mugsy. He is not smart enough to be a demagogue. That why I didn't name him but rather his administration. I believe that Cheney in particular has demagogue tendencies and desires....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    I agree with you Mugsy. He is not smart enough to be a demagogue.....
    Of course, He's a "republi"-gogue. A lot more intricate that a 'Dem' -agogue....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD
    Of course, He's a "republi"-gogue. A lot more intricate that a 'Dem' -agogue....
    Oh dear God! That was BAD!!!

    LH...I would agree wholeheartedly with your statement!! The Papacy was a joke back then...just another reason I think priests should be able to marry...takes a lot more morality than what the first popes showed.


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