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    Painted Ceremic bowls - Poison to dogs-

    I am attaching the link to the whole article at the end of the copied paragraph.
    I have heard for years ceremic bowls mostly because of the glaze and paint contains lead etc. and have posted this warning a few times to people in emails etc. - Here is a good summary of this ..
    " Plastic Bowls- Painted Ceramic Bowls always put water in STAINLESS STEEL or CLEAR GLASS BOWLS, Not plastic or ceramic! Plastic deteriorates no matter how often you clean or change water. Research shows that when plastic containers, such as cups and dishes are filled with water or other liquids that they will gradually dissolve. This could be hazardous to your pet's health. (from Dr. Michael Fox's column in the NY post) Email questions to [email protected] . Painted Ceramic Bowls even if glazed could still lead to lead in your pets food or water. This is a tip for PEOPLE TOO! Only use WHITE or clear glass. Never 'colors'! If the OUTSIDE of the bowl is color it's fine but not the INSIDE. Even if 'glazed' the lead or toxins from paint and colors can get into the food and water" .
    Here is a good link on general other poisons to dogs.. http://www.treshanley.com/cic/hazards.html

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    As far as plastic bowls go:

    http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp

    I have to call BS on the bowls. Should they be washed? Yep. Any water bowl should be washed.

    As far as the ceramics go, any ceramic bowl that's okay for human food should be okay for dog food/water.

    There have been issues with lead paint in some ceramics imported into the US, but I haven't heard anything about it for a long time.

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    The complaint with plastic bowls, the biggest complaint is that plastic bowls will absorb the fat in dog food- just like plastic does with speghetti, meat etc.
    The biggest problem with ceremic bowls is that dog bowls are not made for humans. Even glazes on the bowls if made outside the US and Canada ( china being the biggest offender) not only will wear off, but the glaze itsself is not made for people. I am afraid many Asian countries have little regard for dogs and cats obviously.
    The idea of painted meaning colors is what amazed me the most. I use to do ceremics and really it makes sense. The paints do have lead in them, and even recommended the use of gloves in applying most colors. Now I know why...
    When we were having brands of dog foods tested for ethoxyquin, I also sent in two of my oldest bowls- they were a thick plastic- they came back " rancid on fat content". I use stainless steel bowls and have for years, but I always wash my bowls after they eat. This was recommended because I feed raw, and done more so for my protection.

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    Never, ever argue religion with a true believer.

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    Then what is recommended for a dog that will tip any bowl except ceramic?? I only use it for his food...but when he starts eating, even in a "no-spill" bowl he will normally loose about 1/4 of his food in the floor. Ceramic put an end to that.

    I have a plastic "auto waterer" with a jug that is tipped over, and have never had a problem-the first one we had would leave mildew at the highest point of the water but we took care of that with washing everytime the jug was empty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by areias
    Then what is recommended for a dog that will tip any bowl except ceramic?? I only use it for his food...but when he starts eating, even in a "no-spill" bowl he will normally loose about 1/4 of his food in the floor. Ceramic put an end to that.

    I have a plastic "auto waterer" with a jug that is tipped over, and have never had a problem-the first one we had would leave mildew at the highest point of the water but we took care of that with washing everytime the jug was empty...
    I use bowls like this. At dinner time the one side comes out ( thats femkas spot to eat) and the rest of the time they are both water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Never, ever argue religion with a true believer.
    lol.. yup!

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    Just adding my 2 cents, gained form 30 years of working in the ceramics field:

    Lead is perfectly safe in glazes if the pottery has been properly fired. It is physically impossible for it to "come out" into your food. Unfortunately, some cheap imports aren't properly fired, hence the persistent rumor. For at least the past twenty years, all lead has been "encapsulated" in commercial glazes used for food items, human or canine. The industry also used to use uranium, which is no longer legal.

    Regarding overseas pottery: The USA is the baby in the industry. Ceramic ware has been commercially produced for centuries upon centuries in European, Asian and Middle-eastern countries.

    And yes, gloves & respirators are standard when mixing leaded glazes.
    Moral: buy a decent ceramic bowl. I've used them with pets for years and no one has dropped dead yet or shown any signs of heavy metal poisoning.

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