Dog Races

**sammy101** · 10-24-2004, 01:18 PM

oh im so happy that were not argueing(spll??) any more.I love seeing pictures of all these beautiful greys,and i love hearing about you stories.

**guster girl** · 10-24-2004, 01:45 PM

I went to Grey Talk's site, and, really didn't see that much trash talking done about Pet Talk. It was only a few comments that I saw, and, they weren't anything to worry about, IMO. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, though, I only read the thread about dog racing. Was there more? And, the "don't feed the trolls" posts (I think I remember seeing two) were basically ignored, meaning, I didn't notice anyone nodding their heads in agreement. Overall, it's seems like a smart site to me, from what I read. But, anyway, the overall feeling I got was not a bad one, just a few random posts with some stereoypical comments. Anyone who believes lump statments like that without at least doing a little research is a sheep anyway, and, who cares what people in sheep's clothing think? If some random remarks from a couple of posters in Grey Talk brought over some curious Grey Talkers, I say GREAT! I'm loving all the photos of the dogs, and, like that they are posting about the positive aspects of racing. It's nice to finally see another side of the coin. And, again, that's just my opinion, don't bash me for it.

**lovemygreys7** · 10-24-2004, 01:50 PM

I'm completely sick of the way GT has been talking aobut Pet Talk.

I'm a bit disappointed myself. GT'rs are normally very accepting of both greyhound and non-greyhound owners. Everyone is welcome on our board (pro, neutral and anti racing peeps as well as folks who know nothing about greys, but want to learn!) I think a lot of people felt like we were being attacked unfairly so they lashed out. I've felt very welcome on this board!

oh im so happy that were not argueing(spll??) any more

I agree. While a healthy debate and exchange of ideas is a good thing - it serves no one when the topic (regardless of what it is) detiorates to namecalling and mean-spiritedness.

It's nice to finally see another side of the coin.

Thanks for keeping an open mind. That's all we ask

**guster girl** · 10-24-2004, 01:56 PM

I've always had an open mind about the racing industry and the sled dog industries. I've personally seen both sides firsthand of both of those sports. I know there are a lot of people, though, that think if one animal is needlessly harmed for the entertainment of people, the entire sport should be banned. I don't agree with that at all. But, I'm just glad there are more greyhounds on the site, now!

**guster girl** · 10-24-2004, 02:01 PM

Wow, and, I did just see the "Pet Talk's afraid of me" post in Grey Talk. I don't know, it doesn't offend me, though, it's kind of funny. There are always people with that kind of personality, including in Pet Talk. Variety is the spice of life, I think. As long as we know the core of Pet Talk, and, they know the core of Grey Talk, we'll all be alright.

**K9soul** · 10-24-2004, 02:11 PM

I think it's mostly just a particular person who keeps bringing up Pet Talk in a negative light, and I have commented a few times asking that this person not group us all together or judge us as a single entity, I sure wouldn't want to be lumped together with the person who was name calling and cursing on their board yesterday. I think it's important we don't turn around and do the same thing though. I've responded to the person who seems to bring it up the most but I'm done at this point, if that person is determined to see us as a single entity there's nothing I can really do about it other than what I already have. There are people there who have clashes and don't get along as well just the same as here. Overall if you look at the posts that don't have to do with anti or pro racing debates, they are mostly friendly, enthusiastic and warm hearted.

As far as the troll comments, I think you have to expect that in a way when people choose to post anonymously. When someone new shows up at pet talk and enters into arguments right away, many of us also often think they are trolling. Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't (IMO). I think there would be MANY more trolls here if people were able to post without registering.

Overall I've been treated very nicely, I introduced myself there and had a lot of nice responses and offers to give me information including a PM there about the MN greyhound groups (Thanks again Becki

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**K9soul** · 10-24-2004, 02:13 PM

The Pet Talk's afraid of me post seemed to be joking to me because that person can't get a validation yet. :P

**guster girl** · 10-24-2004, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by K9soul
I think it's mostly just a particular person who keeps bringing up Pet Talk in a negative light, and I have commented a few times asking that this person not group us all together or judge us as a single entity, I sure wouldn't want to be lumped together with the person who was name calling and cursing on their board yesterday. I think it's important we don't turn around and do the same thing though. I've responded to the person who seems to bring it up the most but I'm done at this point, if they are determined to see us as a single entity there's nothing I can really do about it other than what I already have. There are people there who have clashes and don't get along as well just the same as here. Overall if you look at the posts that don't have to do with anti or pro racing debates, they are mostly friendly, enthusiastic and warm hearted.

As far as the troll comments, I think you have to expect that in a way when people choose to post anonymously. When someone new shows up at pet talk and enters into arguments right away, many of us also often think they are trolling. Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't (IMO). I think there would be MANY more trolls here if people were able to post without registering.

Overall I've been treated very nicely, I introduced myself there and had a lot of nice responses and offers to give me information including a PM there about the MN greyhound groups (Thanks again Becki )

I agree with everything you've said, and, also with all that you said at Grey Talk. And, I wholeheartedly agree with the troll comments. I think it's to be expected.

We do it all the time in here, and, again, I agree with you that sometimes I don't think they're trolls. Most of the time, my feeling is that they are, but, not always.

**guster girl** · 10-24-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by K9soul
The Pet Talk's afraid of me post seemed to be joking to me because that person can't get a validation yet. :P

I thought so too.

**cocker_luva** · 10-24-2004, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by cali
I would love to go, and I dont believe greyhoiund races in inhumane in the slightest, I am pro-racing. by the way I have been hanging outwith people who own racing and retired racing greys for years, and quite frankly the greys dont get agile and muscular etc.. from sitting in crates all day, they are takin out several times a day, they get messages and one on one time, they get fed high quaility food mix real meat etc.. mixed in, and when they retire they are placed in Rescues to find them pet homes.

id like to go too! i bet they're fun!

**cocker_luva** · 10-24-2004, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by greysandmoregreys
WOW, just WOW

If you take a look at my user name you will see that I'm a big greyhound fan

Have six that I share my home with. Have fostered several more, assist in greyhound adoption with several local and not so local greyhound ADOPTION groups.

There is a major ignorance going on here I see, and it's not the from the post of Cali

First off there is no such breed out there that you can use the word ALL on so I will leave that out

Of my six hounds 4 of them came DIRECTLY from the racing kennels and came into my home as if they owned it.

Sure there are websites out there that will show you horrors of greyhound racing but have you looked at some of the adoption boards from greyhounds that there ADOPTIVE owners and the things that some of these people have done to there dogs?

Yes greyhounds are breed for racing which in turn is a money making business.

You can not force a greyhound to run if they don't want to. It's just that plain and simple.

Do I know what I'm talking about? H*ll YES I DO

I started out as a leadout at a greyhound track in Ct, then moved on to becoming a greyhound trainer, and now I raise, race and find forever homes for EVERY GREYHOUND IN MY KENNELS!!!

I've done dog grooming, dog obediance, agility, and now greyhounds.

Have a look at a website that will show you a bit more information about greyhound ownership from racing owner
Teamgreyhound

If you want to really learn about it and not just shoot off at the mouth about things that you know little to nothing about.

Please feel free to contact me and I am more than happy to share my experinces with you all

good job! you are the first person who actually sounds like they arent making up bullsh*t to get their

There is nothing ALL good or ALL bad in anything. That is just the facts of it long and short!

opinion across!!!

**greysandmoregreys** · 10-24-2004, 03:57 PM

Not to cause any more problems but I think I must be out of my mind LOL no big surprise to some

If you look at this same site that is listed in the link below. Check out this page
skinny dog

The second picture down shows the right side of the dog where there is no fawn color at all. Where in the bottom picture there is. Also in the two top pictures compaired to the bottom picture there is no fawn color on the dogs head.

I've always been good at those games where you find out what is different between both pictures.

All I want everyone to try and understand is that things can be painted in such a way that makes you think one way. That way may not be the case.

The industry is not perfect and no one claimed it to be. We all learn and try to better ouselves though education that is all we ask of others.

We all have our opinions and we are free to have those. Like it or not. I can understand yours and may not agree but please give others the same concederation.
agree to disagree

Originally posted by KBlaix
Firstly I want to welcome all of you from GT. I hope you stick around and enjoy PT.

I also want to give a link. That is from a greyhound rescue group here in florida. Here is a quote from it:

You need to understand that to most people here at pet talk this is unexceptionable. No pet wether it be a dog or a mouse should be without love and the best possible care. I am not saying that this is the case with every race dog, but there are way too many cases like this.

400 in 2 weeks. You can see that there is a problem when that many dogs are going to a rescue in a 2 week time. I know that not every 2 week period of time that passes another 400 greyhounds are put into rescue groups, but for that to even happen once is disgusting.