Aren't we your friends too?

[carole]

Carly I think you are being a tad harsh on catnapper here, she is a lovely person, and I think maybe her comments were taking a bit out of context, perhaps we should give her the chance to explain exactly what she meant., however after re-reading her post I can see why offence could be taken.

Personally I just love hearing about everyone's lifes, their ups and downs, their joys,even their sorrows, not so much of the sorrows, but at least we can offer support and love in those situations.

Age does not even come into it, Everyone has something happening in their lives , they may wish to share, and that is what PT General is all about, so for those of you who felt offended please let her explain and know that I certainly donot feel that way at all, and I am sure many others share my views.

P.S I would just like to add I have posted in Dog General for the first time ever, regarding something I thought was important, everyone is so out-raged about the dogs being poisoned in Greece, but yet when it comes down to it only one person answered and said they would send a letter to the PM of Greece,and only 24 views, so I say put your money where your mouth is. I am really disappointed. This to me is the only way we can get the attention of the Government and protest, it might just work.

[trayi52]

Well said, Carole. Kim is a very loving person, and from what I have seen, she is very sweet and very understanding to the young people here. She really is being misunderstood. I have see her react with all, and she is just the sweetest person. Please don't be too harsh on her.

Willie

[Tonya]

I agree. Kim has three teens herself, so she can't possibly hate kids! I think you all are misunderstanding her.

[carole]

I think maybe Kim's Choice of words could have been better, but I am certain she would be horrified if she thought she had upset anyone, so let us let Kim speak for herself and re-address the matter perhaps and explain to those who feel offended.

[Kfamr]

I take back what I said about KIm, and was meaning to post this sooner. She apologized to me Via-PM and let me know she wasn't talking about me at all.

[catnapper]

My goodness! I DO seem to be misunderstood - GREATLY misunderstood!

I'll try to elaborate... sorry if I was curt before. I meant that there might *possibly* be a second general. One general for EVERYONE, another more like a "club" for the teens to go and really let their hair down and have fun. They could pass along jokes that only they'd get, talk about their music, pass along dating tips, etc. Then they could come to general and post their stories, ask for homework help, ask for prayers, etc.

I think it would be more fun for the younger ones, and enhance their PT experience. I think it would make things easier on the folks that find these types of posts intimidating, therefore enhancing the older population's PT experience.

I wasn't trying to create a young side and an older side. Not at all! I think the younger folk have a big influence on PT and I don't want that to go away. But I know that I am not the only one who gets annoyed when I see a post that I'd label as a "senseless post that wastes my time"... but at the same time I know that post means something real and important to the person posting. Why not have them post that somewhere where they'll have others who relate? Does that make sense? I know I want a place where I can go and get understanding and comisseration. Why couldn't we offer the younger population a place that offers them more substance on PT?

I don't want to hurt ANYONE'S feelings. I think the younger folk need to look at their posts. Are they always "real" posts, or are they "I'm bored, so I'll post something" posts? There's nothing wrong with that in concept, so long as the majority of those reading those types of posts are receptive to those posts. Hence, my concept of the addition of a new board under the general heading for the younger set. I'd personally be excited at the concept of a place to call my own on a board as large as this! I could talk about the teacher out to get me, the cute guy three seats over in science class, and the unfair set of circumstances that led to my horrendous perm But then when I would have a serous topic like needing prayers for a family member, or post my latest artwork, I'd put it in general to share with everyone!

[Twisterdog]

Originally posted by catnapper
One general for EVERYONE, another more like a "club" for the teens to go and really let their hair down and have fun. They could pass along jokes that only they'd get, talk about their music, pass along dating tips, etc. Then they could come to general and post their stories, ask for homework help, ask for prayers, etc. .....

I, personally, think that is a very good idea.

[leslie flenner]

I agree with the idea for a teen general- there a definately a need for it!
Carole- I too am disappointed by lack of responses re: writing to prime minister but jan has started thread on dog house and moosmom posted site with info (i tried with info jan sent me but it didn't show up right so moosmom did it right!) Anyone here who would like to advocate for the now gone dogs in Athens, go to dog house!

[Karen]

We are all pet lovers, regardless of age.

[micki76]

While I understand your intentions Kim, I just think the *majority* of our teens are treasures and I feel that we shouldn't separate ourselves anymore that we already are. If I don't want to read a post that doesn't interest me, or is by one of the few immature PTers, I just don't read it.

I like us all as one big family, hanging out in the family room.

JMO

[carole]

Well I have done my bit, I just hope others follow, its all very well to say you are horrified then stick your head in the sand.

I must say I am still disappointed that only one person responded, so much for my experience on the Dog side. For those of you on the cat side who feel left out or excluded, I guess I know how you feel, It wasn't that I was even welcomed , just competely ignored.

Kim I think your idea is quite good, maybe it could work, depends on how everyone feels, I guess we can always venture to either if we wish.

[swimma253]

Sorry if I was too harsh.

I understand way better what you were saying Catnapper.

I know that EVERYONE on PT is a wonderful person!

[Cataholic]

I don't really understand why 'kids' (under 18? under 21?) feel so stygmatized by the word 'kids'. You are! It isn't anything to be ashamed of, depressed over, or to take offense at. Face it. You are kids. Others are adults. Some of us are 'old'. Whatever. There is, usually, a certain perspective that comes from age and experience. Not all the time, but, probably most of the time. Yes, we all know REALLY mature 15 year olds, and REALLY immature 40 year olds. (of which I am not one, as I am not 40...he he he).

This is from where I was making my earlier statment about 'clutter' (Robilee). Kids are usually the ones that are doing the "I am bored"..."I hate school"...."My parents are horrible"...or some other eye grabbing title. I stay in Cat most of the time because I know these people better, and am more likely to be interested in what they are posting about, and have come to rely on their titles as accurate. When time is at a premium, I have to resort to this sort of action. I cannot read all threads. I am not interested in all threads. So, when I want to pop on for 10 minutes, and maximize my PT time...I go to Cats. I can count on that to get me what I need, usually. I would welcome a more 'teen' oriented General. Why? It saves me time reviewing the threads, candidly. I am more apt to pop over to General when I don't have to review five pages of 'clutter'. Does that mean I am right? No. It is my opinion. I didn't create this board, and intend to stay here. I modify my behavior by staying in Cats. (This thread was sent to me by someone to see...I don't know that I would have looked at it, otherwise).

I post where I want to post, trying to maintain the topics/categories appropriately. Do I always? No. Do I get upset when others don't? No, I don't even know if I notice it. I don't want there to be 'rules' on whom I connect with, where I connect with, etc. If someone doesn't feel loved here, I suggest they look inward, not outward, for responsibility.

[Kfamr]

I don't understand though.
There's many adults who make threads "My husband and I are.." "I just got married" "I'm going to get married" "I'm selling my house" "I can't stand my child's teacher" And so on... What's the difference between their threads and the younger people's threads? Yes, I do see some of these threads as annoying and clutter, BUT... not EVERYONE does. No one's making anyone to click on it, and no one's making you read them. It's not hard to scroll past a few of them.

I do not see the point for a "teen general" It will only seperate us more than we already are.

I have made a few threads about my parents.. a few about my school.. and so on. I feel horrible now as if these are not wanted and i'm not allowed to vent about things here anymore. You have no clue how nice it is to vent to PT'ers and recieve loving words of encouragement. It really feels like someone's there and someone care when it *feels* like in real life no one does.


I'm not saying that anyones pointing these fingers at me or anything like that, but I can imagine what others my age feel right now.


I'm not ashamed of being a kid (well, seeing actions of some of my peers I am) but I do dislike when we are seperated or put into catagories. We are human beings too, believe it or not.

[Cataholic]

Originally posted by Kfamr
I have made a few threads about my parents.. a few about my school.. and so on. I feel horrible now as if these are not wanted and i'm not allowed to vent about things here anymore.

I know. I see your point. And, I can only assure you I am NOT directing these comments towards you. I am telling you how I feel, right or wrong. I don't think that changes anything though, does it?