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    Originally posted by Soledad
    When I've had my arguments with RICHARD no one rushed to my defense either (though I do recall a number of others chiming in that they "agree with RICHARD 100%

    But, still love you. I'll pass on the comment that you made about me blowing wind......I had such HIGH hopes for you......I derailed the thread??????? It's your thread, get it back on track.....

    Atcheson, Topeka and the Santa Fe.

    P.s. you still can come over to the dark side anytime you want.


    First of all.

    VB Wilson,

    Spaulding is my ball of choice. I have played outside setter and back row hitter.....I played a little with a college club team. Come to the net.

    My comment was a little jab at the political views of AH MUR I CUNS....It seems that we can't handle a little political discussion without raising out BP, heart rate and sugar levels.

    And any AMERICAN should find the same comment I made insulting....MY slam was at the people in the USA who can't use common sense, a little humor and patience when discussing politics.



    It real funny when people want to physically attack you for your politics....especially funny when they have a problem with the war in Iraq. I'm not into the physical attacks......as a matter of fact I'll
    let you get the first punch in..........

    Jonza,
    I haven't campaigned for a 'fan club', If anything,you all have contributed to THAT myth....You post, I answer and the funniest guy wins....

    Here are a few tips, Lower your monthly dues, try humor and don't be so dour......smile and the world laughs at you.......I think..

    DUDE,

    Thanks for remembering my "greatest quips"!!!!! I don't hang on people's words....I tend to absorb them and let it go..........
    And since we haven't taken over Denmark I think you owe me an apology........

    Again,

    They are cheap laughs.....have you been to a comedy club??? the cover and price of drinks are outrageous!!

    Laurie.

    If your political views are so polar opposite mine, why do we get along so well???

    Slick and Gini,

    welcome to the club....you too laurie!!


    Sara,

    I am still waiting for Eddie's picture of Edwina....

    I tossed out a wager to you and YOU haven't replied. It was a gentleman's bet, you are no gentleman.
    So,
    I hereby declare myself the winner and World Champion.

    The funniest thing about this thread is everyone is aghast, insulted and opinionated until some one poke a little hole in their beliefs......and automatically it's a personal insult.....lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES......

    I've come to admire Soledad......Deep down she has come to understand what the game is.......It's nothing personal, it a little banter and a just and understanding that being different is something that brings people together......

    Because we believe what we believe, and respect each other for it, it makes things not as serious.....

    I talk outta my bottom and I know it.....It's when you do and don't realize it that gets you into trouble.....the stink gives you away....


    I love you all dearly and want you to be happy So I think I will make an announcement that will satisfy everyone that isn't part of my fan club....





    OPEN ENROLLMENT

    The Richard Marching Band and Chowder Society is accepting applications now!!! just send 12.95 and I'll send you a parchment stating your enrollment. It also entitles you to agree with me on any opinion I state. And with any cash enrollment
    you will be given a whit of humor and mirth in your life!!
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    The funniest thing about this thread is everyone is aghast, insulted and opinionated until some one poke a little hole in their beliefs......and automatically it's a personal insult.....lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES......
    Well...I'll certainly sleep easier tonight. I thought you were personally insulting me but....since you have yet to poke so much as a pin hole in any of my beliefs....I guess you haven't!

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    I tossed out a wager to you and YOU haven't replied. It was a gentleman's bet, you are no gentleman.
    Richard...this one is almost too easy....I agree with you that I am no gentlemen so how could it have been a gentlemen's bet with no gentlemen involved?????

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    and yes....
    lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES
    I agree with you I could stand to lose a few pounds (although a gentleman would not mention it...oh that's right....)

    I can assure you it would NOT be a good thing if Jonza were to lose any!

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    Originally posted by jonza
    I think the main problem is that Richard's "style" has a tendency to reinforce the increasingly wide spread idea of America as an intolerant and self-absorbed nation. At least for those of us who don't know him, in fact for a lot of people who aren't American. That's sad, as it obviously isn't true. I've got more or less used to it, but consider it very irritating, negative and counterproductive. There is seldom any rational argument or logic in the posts, they are just confusing, rude and offensive to other nationalities. This has often put me off, and I have cut down on my Pet Talk participation exactly because of this.

    I'll never forget my first incursion into the Dog House. Here's a couple of quotes from some of Richards replies: "kick ass and take over denmark tour dates have not been given out yet … i'll post them when they become available", and: "just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the US armed forces, when they come to take over your country".
    And from others: "more than I can say about those little insignificant countries who sit on their duff and wait for everyone else around them to keep the world safe".

    These are acceptable then???

    If Richard is going to be constantly arrogant, sarcastic and insulting to people, why do others not have the right to retaliate in kind without getting mobbed by his fan club? It all gets a bit one-sided doesn't it? Where's the tolerance and open-mindedness that the world needs so much more of? Richard's way of discussing political matters is a very bad advertisement for what the majority of Americans stand for. Don't forget, the Internet is an INTERNATIONAL forum, and Americans are, after all, only 4,54% of the worlds population. We've all got to somehow work it out together, with a bit more respect for our differences. You can't have "globalization" and unilateralism at the same time. That in itself is hypocritical.

    This may be an American based forum (and very well run), but I think we should all respect the fact that we come from widely varied countries and cultures, and have many different opinions on the worlds' problems.

    Richard - is it worth all these misunderstandings just to get a cheap laugh and a bit of applause from your fan club? Presumably it is.

    I agree completely with these statements by Jonza. I gave up
    (not my beliefs) but any chance of getting a thoughtful, logical
    response from Richard on this forum. I have no idea what persona he projects in person, but his written"style" is very off putting to a lot of caring, intelligent people.
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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    Slick and Gini,

    welcome to the club....you too laurie!!
    Where is my 8 x 10 autographed glossy along with a life-sized poster for my wall???

    Oh, and aren't we supposed to get a monthly newsletter as well??
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    I's like to apologize to the people on this thread for stirring up the pot....

    I like to live on the edge and enjoy questioning the topics.....
    and a few other things..

    Yes, I am the ugly American......I mean, if people think that already, who am I to change their minds??

    I might as well apologize for the US Olympic teams too...

    And for Lance Armstrong and all the countries we invaded and still hold to this day.....

    One of the scariest things on this planet are the people who are immovable from their beliefs, have no sense of humor or insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.....I may add that the muscle flexers are the same peace loving, anti-war protestors.....



    And since we have derailed the thread I think I'll go back to one of MY original questions....


    Where are the two articles stating we used chemweps or napalm in Iraq?????????

    If it's in a Micheal Moore movie it must be true!




    And Jonza,

    I'll have to remind you that the Internet is an AMERICAN product......AL GORE invented it.

    I only reacted to your characterization of my beloved country.

    again, nothing personal......We aren't all self absorbed and arrogant....You have seen too many Ben Affleck movies.

    And to my beloved fan base....

    It's not a 8 x10 glossy, it's a dart board....

    You'll know I am in trouble when I lose my sense of humor....As a matter of fact I get a huge laugh out of the mirror each morning....


    Thank you, I'll be here all week and don't forget to tip your waitress.....

    And whoever finds those articles, post them.....I haven't had any self loathing in a while.
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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.....I may add that the muscle flexers are the same peace loving, anti-war protestors.....
    A picture is worth a thousand words.

    Good night all.
    Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand and strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!
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    One of the scariest things on this planet are the people who are immovable from their beliefs, have no sense of humor or insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.
    There you go! Something we both agree on one hundred percent!
    Try looking down the barrel of a gun held by an Afrikaans militiaman at 3 o'clock in the morning on a quiet country road. No humor in those eyes! No chance of changing his beliefs! Plenty of flexing of muscles! Yes, people like that are truly scary. But that's what I mean, there are situations where humor just isn't appropriate! I tried humility, luckily that worked.

    I only reacted to your characterization of my beloved country.
    It wasn't my characterization of your country, it was what I see as becoming a very widespread view of America. Sadly.

    … again, nothing personal......We aren't all self absorbed and arrogant.
    But that's EXACTLY what I was trying to point out. As I said: "That's sad, as it obviously isn't true". And by the way, who's Ben Affleck?

    You'll know I am in trouble when I lose my sense of humor....As a matter of fact I get a huge laugh out of the mirror each morning.
    I'm like that too, though I don't want to ruin my day by looking in the mirror at all. I don't think ANYBODY who knows me well would accuse me of not having a sense of humor!! My only defense against the madness going on in the world today is my humor. Check out the other threads I have posted on - Dear Phred, Pet Talk Confidential, The Cruise of the Feline Princess etc. And you don't have to tell me about black humor, I was brought up on "The Goon Show" and am a complete fan of Monty Python, Black Adder and similar madness.
    There's a time and a place for everything. The serious problems we are discussing in the Dog House do not harmonize with the use of our own personal sense of humor (anywhere else is fine). Keep them for other threads. I have no problem at all with silliness there, in fact I love it, as I hope others have noticed.

    Yes, I am the ugly American...... I mean, if people think that already, who am I to change their minds??
    I actually doubt that, but are you aware that you might really appear so to people who only read your threads and don't know you personally? Why aren't you interested in changing their minds? Just seems unnecessarily self-effacing to me.

    … and by the way, I'm not very good at being the member of any "club", never have been. In fact I've always been a bit of an anti-social loner. I don't even really have a country that I can say I'm a "member" of! I'd much prefer it that way. I'm just a member of the human race. This gives me the chance to fool myself into thinking I can be a bit more objective and neutral in my views. I doubt that it works though.

    "Peace cannot be achieved through violence,
    it can only be attained through understanding."
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    Originally posted by slick
    A picture is worth a thousand words.

    Good night all.
    Good Night Mrs. Calabash, where ever you are.
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    Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all -
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    I do so like it when people "make nice" Especially two of my favorites

  12. Confession

    I have been very down all day as a result of the direction this thread has taken. I have mulled it over and realized that in fact, I don't have a sense of humor....as defined herein. I do not think it is funny to call people names or belittle them because of their country of origin or religion or beliefs. I don't find belittling people funny at all.

    So there you have it. I guess that is why I have never seen the humor in the Three Stooges...cruelty and pain just don't amuse me. I enjoy laughing with people, not at people.

    So I'll leave this to those who find that type of thing entertaining.

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    Moore spoke at a horse track near Lost Angeles last night because the head of the college, where he was scheduled to speak, thought that the 37,000 dollars he was going to charge the institution was "too much" and the money should be spent on education.......Now, THAT'S a right wing conspiracy if I ever heard one....Imagine that, wanting to spend money on education!!

    He also declined to accept the money that the students gathered, on their own, to pay for his visit.....I wonder where, if at all, the people got their money back..............


    I wonder is he ever tossed a few ducats Lila Lipscomb's way...

    You remember Lila, She appeared before after Moore's opus premiered....and then disappeared just as quickly-after Moore used her, and her son's death, to promote his 'comedy'.


    By the way,

    Moore's 60 city tour should net him 2.2 million dollars in fees.



    Give me liberty or give me money!!!


    What a patriot!!

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    The only time I will make a comment about who won the election.


    Hey Mikey!!!!

    Que paso????

    I eagerly await your first post election interview.
    The secret of life is nothing at all
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    Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all -
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    I laugh, therefore? I am.

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    Re: Fahrenheit 911 - For those who've seen it

    Originally posted by Soledad
    Does anyone think there will be a big impact because of it?
    Apparently not.

    Only 9% of eligible voters saw the movie---overwhelmingly die hard Libs who were predisposed to agree with its contents.

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