A Few Questions on Feeding Raw.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Brianna,

I understand where you're coming from but at the same time I understand where your mother is coming from. It is very hard to make ends meet now-a-days and I do remember reading posts about lack of financials in your household. Maybe instead of feeding RAW, ask your mother to upgrade their food to a better kibble, and that you will pay the difference in the kibble you buy now.


I don't know.. just throwing out ideas that you've probably already tried, I'm sure. I do know it's very hard on boths sides as I've been there. Maybe when you're older and get a job/income your mother will allow/help feed raw.

I know we're in a tight financial situation right now, and I wasn't even asking her to start it right now. All I asked was for a week, and even I'd pay for a portion of it. She always has some stupid excuse and says something about how I read too much online and it's all crap. I suggested switching to a higher food the other day, and I got yelled at and got all kinds of millions of excuses. I'm just so tired of her not caring about our dogs.
Thanks for trying to help though, Kay.

[dogzr#1]

Well I just showed them the slideshow and they said they'll think about it. I don't know if thats a yes, or no, but my step-dad went to the supermarket right now, so maybe he'll buy some raw meat for them. Luckily my step-dad used to be a vet assistant, so he knows a little more than my mom, and he answered her questions! I can't attach my Power Point because it is an invalid file type.

Edit: Well he came back and he didn't buy any raw for the dogs . Maybe they need to talk about it some more.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well I just showed them the slideshow and they said they'll think about it. I don't know if thats a yes, or no, but my step-dad went to the supermarket right now, so maybe he'll buy some raw meat for them. Luckily my step-dad used to be a vet assistant, so he knows a little more than my mom, and he answered her questions! I can't attach my Power Point because it is an invalid file type.

Edit: Well he came back and he didn't buy any raw for the dogs . Maybe they need to talk about it some more.

At least your parents listened to you..
I guess the only thing I can do is get a job and buy the Raw myself.

[dogzr#1]

At least your parents listened to you..
I guess the only thing I can do is get a job and buy the Raw myself.

I'm sorry. I might have to do that myself if they don't want to do it. The food we feed now isn't good at all, so I really wish they let us feed raw.

[Roxyluvsme13]

I'm sorry. I might have to do that myself if they don't want to do it. The food we feed now isn't good at all, so I really wish they let us feed raw.

Same here. I don't have any way of earning money though.. Maybe my mom can start giving me an allowance.. My grandpa gives me a monthly allowance.

[k9krazee]

Well, it's no, because my mom's a lazy @$$ b****. Sorry, but I'm uber mad at her right now.
We can't feed Raw because she can't eat meat. YEAH she can. She just said she didn't want to have to cook double so she could eat meat. She said no meat in the freezer if she can't eat it, and the dogs don't deserve to eat better than us. Oh gee, apparently she doesn't care about them. Of course she doesn't. Roxy lives on a frikkin chain 24/7, her teeth are horrible, she's on low quality **** kibble. Apparently she doesn't care much about Lily either, since Lily's teeth are just starting to get bad. GOD, I hate her so much right now.

I'm sorry that she won't let you, I know what you're going through. I have been discussing this with my mother for a couple of months, and she always laughs it off. Just the other day I found a butt load of venison in the freezer in the garage thats been there since hunting season so I brought the idea up again. I told her that the kibble is running low and that if she wanted she could give me the $30 and I could go raw shopping. She won't go for it. I even offered to pay for it (for my dogs at least, but then I'd feel bad for the other 3) and she still won't go for it. She accused me of caring too much about the dogs and she wants me focused on my future instead of spending all my time and money on the dogs. I just don't understand sometimes

[Roxyluvsme13]

I'm sorry that she won't let you, I know what you're going through. I have been discussing this with my mother for a couple of months, and she always laughs it off. Just the other day I found a butt load of venison in the freezer in the garage thats been there since hunting season so I brought the idea up again. I told her that the kibble is running low and that if she wanted she could give me the $30 and I could go raw shopping. She won't go for it. I even offered to pay for it (for my dogs at least, but then I'd feel bad for the other 3) and she still won't go for it. She accused me of caring too much about the dogs and she wants me focused on my future instead of spending all my time and money on the dogs. I just don't understand sometimes

I'm sorry, Ashley. *HUGS* My mom just said no because she's fed up with me being vegetarian, because she's too lazy to cook 2 different times. I even said *I* would pay for the Raw. I'm going to do it whether she likes it or not. If she still doesn't like it I guess I'll go back to eating meat so my dogs can eat Raw even though I don't want to.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Double posting, again, sorry.

BUTTTTTT...

SHE SAID WE'D TRY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only bad thing is I have to go back to eating meat.. . I'll do this for my dogs though. They deserve it. They truly do. They've always been there for me when I just wanted to run away and die, so I'll go back to meat for them. Apparently I must love them alot to do this..

[Roxyluvsme13]

Oops triple posting, but I wanted to ask some questions..

If I happen to go to the store tomorrow and my mom lets me get some Raw food, what do you suggest? If they still have the chickens on sale I may get one or 2 of those. But what else? Cheapest stuff? Or maybe I could even convince her to go to the butcher.. Are they cheaper?

[.sarah]

Well, you're not going to die on meat xD. Sometimes you've just got to prioritize. I would have done the same, and just switched back to vegetarianism once I moved out. Luckily my parents didn't make me do that, and it's lots of fun explaining I'm vegetarian to the grocery store clerk when I have a basket full of meat!

I'm so glad you are able to try it, though! Your dogs are gonna love you!



If I happen to go to the store tomorrow and my mom lets me get some Raw food, what do you suggest? If they still have the chickens on sale I may get one or 2 of those. But what else? Cheapest stuff? Or maybe I could even convince her to go to the butcher.. Are they cheaper?
Stick with chicken for a week or two, until their stools are firm. Then add in another meat source, then another, then another, until you have added in all main staples of their diet. But definetly take it slow or else you could upset their systems, and your mom might make you switch them back

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well, you're not going to die on meat xD. Sometimes you've just got to prioritize. I would have done the same, and just switched back to vegetarianism once I moved out. Luckily my parents didn't make me do that, and it's lots of fun explaining I'm vegetarian to the grocery store clerk when I have a basket full of meat!

I'm so glad you are able to try it, though! Your dogs are gonna love you!



If I happen to go to the store tomorrow and my mom lets me get some Raw food, what do you suggest? If they still have the chickens on sale I may get one or 2 of those. But what else? Cheapest stuff? Or maybe I could even convince her to go to the butcher.. Are they cheaper?
Stick with chicken for a week or two, until their stools are firm. Then add in another meat source, then another, then another, until you have added in all main staples of their diet. But definetly take it slow or else you could upset their systems, and your mom might make you switch them back

My mom says the Vegetarian stuff is too expensive.. I can live with meat, (I absolutely dont hate it!) She said that was just weird if I was vegetarian and was going to feed my dogs meat, because there was still meat being eaten.. Whatever.. . She said butchers would be higher.. and if Lily starts puking or anything I know she's going to make me go back to feeding her kibble. But I'll have to explain she's adjusting to the new diet I guess.. I dunno if she'll even let me start tomorrow.. Any idea on how much chicken I should stock up on?

[.sarah]

Hmmm ... you could get either two 10 lb bags of quarters, or 5 whole chickens (at about 3-4 lbs each).

By the way, dogs tend to puke and get diarreah at the most inopportune times, like in the middle of the night. So if she sleeps with you, your mom would never even have to know. If Lily is vomiting (and I mean once a night, not multiple times a night), just clean it up and keep it a secret

[Roxyluvsme13]

Hmmm ... you could get either two 10 lb bags of quarters, or 5 whole chickens (at about 3-4 lbs each).

By the way, dogs tend to puke and get diarreah at the most inopportune times, like in the middle of the night. So if she sleeps with you, your mom would never even have to know. If Lily is vomiting (and I mean once a night, not multiple times a night), just clean it up and keep it a secret

I doubt we'll even buy it tomorrow, but maybe I can get an allowance advance and buy some stuff for them ^^ If I bought all that would that last a whole week? Oh yeah, when preparing.. am I going to have to weigh everything.. because we don't have a scale. And, do you recommend adding anything in with the meat the first time?

[dogzr#1]

Briana, you are so lucky you get to try it! I'll ask my parents again. I don't want to be pushy and get annoying.

[.sarah]

I doubt we'll even buy it tomorrow, but maybe I can get an allowance advance and buy some stuff for them ^^ If I bought all that would that last a whole week? Oh yeah, when preparing.. am I going to have to weigh everything.. because we don't have a scale. And, do you recommend adding anything in with the meat the first time?

It should last at least a week, probably more. I'm really just guessing here. I don't know how much they'd need, and I don't feel like doing all the math to figure it out and then figure out how much that'd be in a week

No need to weigh it. Just guess. If your dogs start to look fat, cut them down, if they are thin, increase it. By the way, a chicken quarter usually weighs around a pound. A half a 3-4 lb chicken obviously weighs 1.5-2 lbs If you bought whole chickens I would probably cut them in half and feed one half to Roxy and cut the other half in Lily-sized portions. Do it however is easiest for you, it doesn't matter really. If the chickens come with organs, put them in the freezer until you are safe to introduce them into their diet. Don't add anything to the meat, it would be too much for them to handle right now. Just use the chicken until their stools are firm, then add another protein source, and another, until all main sources are added. Once you've done that, you can add other things like veggies and organs. The reasoning for this is to slowly move them into the diet. Plus, if you are feeding two or more things at a time and there is a problem, then how do you know which meat caused it?