Why make the choice to not have children?

[Pam]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lisalee

I have a deep love of animals and perfer to make this world a better place for them as I grow older.
And how are the animals going to make this a better place for you? Are they going to work to make society better? Will they grow up to be scientists and teachers and judges and nurses? Will they maybe some day find a cure for cancer?
I find people to be selfish that can't open there hearts to let an animal into there home.
In case you hadn't noticed this is a PET forum. There are absolutely no people on here that haven't opened up their homes to an animal. In fact many have lots and lots of animals! If you are speaking about society as a whole, I would suggest you think again. Dogs, cats, birds, reptiles, whatever you can name, are living among us all over the world. I find your thinking to be very skewed and honestly a little scary.

[trayi52]

What do you call a personal attack Kay?

[Dogz]

WILLIE:

Originally posted by Twisterdog
And I find you to be frightening and small-minded.

I would call this a personal attack.

I would call what you just did a personal attack.


Since you needed an example, there are two.

[trayi52]

Emma, how about this one:

I find it sad that kids/babies are placed so much higher in society than animals. I find people to be selfish that can't open there hearts to let an animal into there home. I find them to be the most selfish.

What do you call that? Do you find that statement to be true?

[Twisterdog]

It wasn't an attack. And it wasn't personal, since I dont' know this person. It was my opinion, based on her comments. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Would you also call the following a "personal attack", as well? I certainly would.

Originally posted by lisalee
... I find many of your comments to be very offensive and it SHOWS me that you must want to start trouble with anyone that doesn't share your views. ... I've met so far some very nice people on this board and some not so pleasant individuals I see. Enough said.

Lisa & Sash

[Dogz]

Yes, I would call those both personal attacks.

Sorry, Twisterdog. I just took it as a personal attack. But, I can understand how it isn't a personal attack, I suppose.

[Dogz]

Here is my answer.

I have not yet chosen that I am not going to have children. I cannot yet make that decision, since I am a child myself.

[Twisterdog]

Originally posted by Dogz
Yes, I would call those both personal attacks.

Sorry, Twisterdog. I just took it as a personal attack. But, I can understand how it isn't a personal attack, I suppose.

It's ok. I suppose I should have said, "And I find YOUR VIEWS to be frightening and small-minded." instead. Better?

[Dogz]

Originally posted by lisalee

I find people to be selfish that can't open there hearts to let an animal into there home.

So, does this mean that you find yourself to be selfish?




Twisterdog: Yes, that would make it a statement. Personally, I think that they are true.

[trayi52]

Emma, as you said you are young. I was not attacking you or Kay in any way. I am a mother and a grandmother. I am pretty sure your mothers would stand up and also defend you as human beings with the right to life.

Like Pam, said we all have pets in our homes, and love them dearly. I just think that lisalee's statement was totally uncalled for. She could have stopped it before she insulted every mother, mother to be, grandmothers and all would have been just fine.

Do you understand what I am saying Emma?

[Dogz]

Originally posted by trayi52

Do you understand what I am saying Emma?

Yes, a lot of lisalee's statements were uncalled for.

I am reading through the whole thread now.

[Pam]

You know the sad thing is that often people will visit a forum such as this and get the members stirred up against each other and then they just slink off into the night. To be honest, I didn't see any attacks here. I saw people defending their own viewpoints.

[trayi52]

Emma, LOL, I don't mind being called a boy, I'm used to that. My god I used to get put in the boys homeroom in high school! Can you believe that? I was just a little old dum hick that didn't know what the devil was going on back then.

Willie

[carole]

Personally I find anyone who takes things to the extreme scarey,. It is one thing to love and care for animals and to be an advocate ,but to take it to the extreme is frightening IMO.

Thanks Kay for bringing this thread back on a lighter tone, even though it has become heated again,(and I am not suprised as to why) but I can think of two things different to raising dogs and children, they don't cheek you back , or borrow the car lol.

I think if i were to take the easier option, it would be to raise dogs than children, but hey I am glad I didn't.!!!!

[Dogz]

Originally posted by Pam
You know the sad thing is that often people will visit a forum such as this and get the members stirred up against each other and then they just slink off into the night. To be honest, I didn't see any attacks here. I saw people defending their own viewpoints.

Now that you have put it in a different perspective, I can see exactly what you are saying, and I do agree.

Thank you, Pam.