I feel evil

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Yep, It looks like they are both the same breed.
Psst..luckies, I love your signature!

[wolfsoul]

Parsons and Jacks are actually two different things. The jack russel terrier clubs and societies wanted to recognize the shorter longer bodied ones as a different type to protect it from being bred for looks instead of working quality. So AKC changed the name to parson to help protect the jack russel from forming the old standard instead of being bred for their working ability.

[cali]

you got it wolfsoul

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by wolfsoul
Parsons and Jacks are actually two different things. The jack russel terrier clubs and societies wanted to recognize the shorter longer bodied ones as a different type to protect it from being bred for looks instead of working quality. So AKC changed the name to parson to help protect the jack russel from forming the old standard instead of being bred for their working ability.

Yes, but in reality they are still the same dog.

[wolfsoul]

Actually they are a separate breed.

http://www.pedigree.com.au/breeds/breeds.asp?b=51&p=j

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by wolfsoul
Actually they are a separate breed.

http://www.pedigree.com.au/breeds/breeds.asp?b=51&p=j

Nope sorry. Just because one has longer legs or whatever and they all of a sudden make them into two seperate breeds, they are STILL the same.

I don't think that just because one may be smaller or whatever it's all of a sudden a different breed.......just don't believe in the things the AKC does. So lets not argue anymore, you think something and I think another. So be it.


In about 60 years I will consider them their "own" breed.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
Yep, It looks like they are both the same breed.
Psst..luckies, I love your signature!

Thanks!

[Uabassoon]

Just because one has longer legs or whatever and they all of a sudden make them into two seperate breeds, they are STILL the same

So does that mean you think a toy and a standard poodle are the same breed?

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by Uabassoon
So does that mean you think a toy and a standard poodle are the same breed?

Um no....

[cali]

they are a seperate breed, a jack russle is bred to work and ability NOT for looks the reason they have the long body, and short legs and well muscled is because they are bred for hunting going into the holes, and fighting with the larger game, a parson russle however is bred soley for looks and AKC couldent give a damn if they can work or not, which they cant, not well, their legs are to long to be going down a hole. they have been considerd the smae breed for many many years but the working Jack Russle people fiannly won the fight to make the show things that cant work a darned a seperate breed from the true working Jack russle.

[luckies4me]

Ok geez, I don't really care anymore ok? Fine they are seperate breeds..........

[aly]

I just wanted to make one point. This is not directed at Petlover, but I forgot who posted that they say their dog's name followed by "NO" when their dog does something bad. You should never use the dog's name for anything negative. It should be a very positive thing So if you do say no, just don't use the dog's name in the same sentence.

[aly]

Originally posted by luckies4me
You all are saying you have NEVER smacked your dog, not even on the butt or tapped them on the nose?

Yup, I have never EVER used physical punishment on any of my animals. Nor have I used it on any of the shelter animals I work with every day. I find it 100% UNNECESSARY and cruel. I only use positive reinforcement training methods.

I know petlover made a mistake and learned from it and I'm proud of her for that.

[cali]

I agree with aly on that one, one trainer said to have a seperate name as there "punnishment" name so to speak lor there whole name, for example mistys full name is mistletoe mischief so instead of saying misty no, you would say "mistletoe mischief NO" as we never call her by her full name, it is simpley printed on her awards.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by aly
I just wanted to make one point. This is not directed at Petlover, but I forgot who posted that they say their dog's name followed by "NO" when their dog does something bad. You should never use the dog's name for anything negative. It should be a very positive thing So if you do say no, just don't use the dog's name in the same sentence.

I said I use "NO" but I don't do it in the same sentence.

All I have to do is say "NO" and normally they stop what they're doing and look at me like "HUH?"...

Yes, I have tapped Simba & Nala before.