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  1. #76
    Something worth reading.....


    A study showed that parents usually control and guide toddlers in one of two ways:

    1. Power Control- includes spanking, using force and taking away things or favors. It also includes not hugging, kissing or talking to the child.

    2. Reasoning control- means telling the child WHY she should act a certain way, in simple words that she can understand. Reasoning means pointing out that the behavior could hurt her or others.

    For example, if your child throws sand, power control might be yelling, or hitting her. Reasoning might be telling her that throwing sand could hurt other children by getting sand in their eyes, or in her own, and she must stop.


    Reasoning works better! The study showed that parents who used reasoning were better able to control their children's behavior and teach them to cooperate.



    In my opinion it doesn't do any good to tell a screaming child to stop screaming, by yelling at them. You can teach them that yelling is not appropriate, and explain to them why. This is what I do and so far it's working great. My son is very well behaved, I don't know if I just got lucky or what, but I know I WAS NOT that way growing up, but I was also raised differently. I was not disciplined lovingly, it was with a whip and leash so to speak. I for one will not raise my child that way, and I know it's the right way for me, because it's working and I could not have asked for a better child.


    Now you all have me thinking what exactly do you consider a temper tantrum? I may be a little overboard, but I think just crying and carrying on is one, Dylan never throws himself to the floor and kicks, although my younger sister used to do that...drove me crazy BTW. If it's kicking and crying and acting like a deranged person than I can honestly say that Dylan has not had one. If that is what you guy's have experienced than I feel for you because it drives me insane! I hate seeing kids that way, grrr. I just think I was blessed.


    But not all the things children do are a direct cause from parents, like my younger brother for instance. Talk about a hell child!!! But he had ADD and with Hyperactivity which makes it worse! Finally after a gazillion years we went to a ADD meeting, (funny all the other people there were also shaking their feet, if you have ADD you know what I am talking about) my mom put him on meds and he got the help he needed. Now you would never have guessed, he's a straight A student, so focused and a nice young man.


    Believe me, there are parents out there who try and try but the children need more help then the parents can give. Some kids are just plain rotten.


    Here is something that helped me with Dylan though:

    Guidelines and Discipline: Rules

    Sometimes between 15 and 24 months, toddlers may become resistant and defiant. You will probably hear them say "no" a lot. Toddlers want to test their independence and power, and show you how important they are. They may do this by saying "No!" This is a sign they are growing up. Be patient.

    Making rules
    Early on, you need to choose some simple rules- a few, not too many. Make rules your toddler can understand and follow. Most important, make rules that you can enforce all the time.

    Rules like these help your toddler learn that he can and should follow rules- even if he really doesn't like them. He needs to know this to grow into a respsonsible adult.

    Be consistent ( I cannot stress this enough!!!!) If you have a rule against candy before dinner, try to enforce this everyday. Otherwise, you teach your toddler that rules don't matter, or that they can be easily broken.

    Use reasoning

    Explain in simple words WHY you have the rule. Say something like. "Hold my hand when we cross the street so I can keep you safe". This helps your toddler learn that rules have a purpose. Studies show that children follow rules better when they are given reasons. Understanding the reason helps toddlers remember the rule.


    I also want to add that other members of the family need to enforce these rules as well. If they are not allowed to do something at home, the same should apply when at the sitters etc.
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  2. #77
    Originally posted by Airedalekisses
    Oh we understood everything you said Luckie-and I agree children shouldn't be slapped;but come on a "time out" and tantrums help in development-yeah development of a rebellious teenager and a probably nasty adult. You know we who posted on this thread are not some monsters who wish every child had never been born-we're just asking for a bit of consideration and understanding-I know you're probably ticked at those of us who say we have rights, too. Well of the children I have seen-if they are our future-I pity the future!!

    Where did I say temper tantrums help developement? Do not put words into my mouth please. Yes a time out can help, when you have done everything else that is my last option and I WILL use it. It's either go in the crib, or be smacked, and I prefer not smacking.
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  3. #78
    There are varying degrees of temper tantrums, and yes I consider crying and carrying on to definitely be a temper tantrum. Anything that a child does when they're upset that they cannot have their way is a temper tantrum IMHO...

    But here's a real doozy:



    Temper Tantrum!!!
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  4. #79
    Originally posted by ILoveReptiles
    There are varying degrees of temper tantrums, and yes I consider crying and carrying on to definitely be a temper tantrum. Anything that a child does when they're upset that they cannot have their way is a temper tantrum IMHO...

    But here's a real doozy:



    Temper Tantrum!!!

    Oh god! Now I know I am lucky lol.


    Just want to clarify that just because a child cries doesn't mean it's because he's not getting his way. Children cry for all sorts of reasons, it shows they are unhappy and is a natural way of communicating. For instance last night I was doing dishes while Dan was on the computer. Dylan came over to Dan and was tugging on his diaper, I was watcing, Dylan was fussy. Dan got mad because he was fussy, so his diaper went unchanged. Dylan came back over tuggin on his diaper, clearly showing that he wanted it changed, which was obvious as you could smell he poopied in his pants. So I told Dan, duh, he wants his diaper changed! Can you not see him trying to tell you? If I had poop in my pants you better believe I wouldn't be a happy camper either. He changed his diaper and Dylan was fine. Lesson learned for both of them. Dan- pay attention! and Dylan- next time you need your diaper changed go to mommy.


    Anyways, I respect peoples decision to not have children. What bugs me is when people still bug you even after you have one! I remember it was only about a month after I had Dylan and my step father was already asking me when the next was comming. I almost fainted. Ones enough! As much as I love Dylan, kids are a lot of work, deffinately not for everybody.
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  5. #80
    I can totally understand you being irritated by people continuing to bug you to have another.

    I will never understand why some people take so much interest in the reproductive choices of anyone other than themselves. I don't see how it's any of their business.

    I am aware of the fact that children cry for all sorts of reasons. But this does not change the fact that I cannot stand the wailing and crying noises no matter what the reason is. To ask me to sit by idly and tolerate it is out of the question. Most often you will find me doubling back and running in the opposite direction. I have extremely sensitive ears, and piercing noises drive me straight up the wall.

    I'm fully aware of the fact that I'd make a horrible mother. I don't have the patience or the desire to deal with any of that. But if you do, then great. More power to ya. Just so long as you don't try to force me to love being around children. Plain and simple - it will never happen.

    I've had people try constantly to "talk me into" liking kids. In all honesty, I think that is wrong. I don't like being around them, I don't like the way they smell, I don't like the noises they make, and I especially don't like it when they start crying/wailing/screeching for any reason. I think it's great that you like them - but I don't. And I don't understand it when people take it as a personal insult against them when I say I just don't enjoy being around children at all.
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    Ok. I am going to reply to some of this in a bit but right now my eyes have rolled so far into the back of my head that I can't see correctly.
    ok yes...smart mouthed of me but right now I can't help it.

  7. #82
    Well said. I totally understand, and as a parent, believe me, I hate to hear crying and whailing as well, although it rarely occurs with Dylan. His cousin is another story though.


    I don't think anyone can talk someone into liking kids. I LOVE my son, but I don't always like him, and I don't really care for other peoples children unless they are well behaved, or babies. I just ADORE babies. hehe


    Yes well I am still being bugged to have another child. I had problems conceiving the first, and second time, and I just do not have the energy to try again. Dylan is a handful right now. I don't think I could have another soon. As soon as I go back and finish college, maybe a few years down the rode. Just not now, I don't have the patience for another. Of course my family would LOVE to have me pop out three more, just to make them happy. I tell them, if you want one so badly, have your own!


    I'd like to adopt my next child. If I can be spared the morning sickness and labor then it's more appealing to me.


    One thing that makes me sad is when we are out with Dylan, and he is being such a good boy. He will wave to someone, smile and say hi, and they will comepletely ignore him or say something like "What do you want?" in a threatening tone, when all he was doing was being friendly. You can see the sadness on his face, and it ruins our day. It's one thing to not like kids, but you don't have to be rude about it. There's no excuse to treat someone that way. *sigh*
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  8. #83
    What's wrong with ignoring? I am so sick of people assuming that I have to go all gaa gaa over every kid that waves at me.

    If that makes me a b****, then so be it. I won't out and out say something threatening, that's not right... But don't expect me to start googling and drooling over a kid. It just won't happen.

    MAYBE - it entirely depends on my mood, I will flash a quick smile, but other than that - I'll just ignore and keep walking.
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    AMEN to the not gaa gaa goo gooing-hey and I'm not religious-let's not nit pick at that one.
    What I abhor is being on an airplane with a child and the mother changes the diaper right at the seat!! Oh, yes it's happened more than once and when I said something about going to the restroom the mothers gave me a look that could have killed. I now ask if the flights have any children passengers, if they do- I will change my reservation! I don't want to smell dirty diapers and hear screaming all the way to my destination and here's another topic I don't want to see breastfeeding in public-I don't care if it's natural and you put a blanket over yourself. I, also, resent the fact that babies are allowed to sit on the mother's lap on planes-the seats are small enough without two persons taking up one seat. Why should I have to pay for first class just to avoid this? Enough ranting and raving-oh, am I gonna hear it from the La Leche league!!
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  10. #85
    Originally posted by ILoveReptiles
    What's wrong with ignoring? I am so sick of people assuming that I have to go all gaa gaa over every kid that waves at me.

    If that makes me a b****, then so be it. I won't out and out say something threatening, that's not right... But don't expect me to start googling and drooling over a kid. It just won't happen.

    MAYBE - it entirely depends on my mood, I will flash a quick smile, but other than that - I'll just ignore and keep walking.

    What would it hurt to just look at them? You don't have to get all goo goo on them, but a simple glance in their direction, and not a mean one wouldn't kill you. It seems like the polite thing to do. So yes I do find that rude. But well our opinions differ and I'll leave it at that. There is no sense in arguing over something that cannot be changed. So......
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  11. #86
    I'd also like to add, that this is a controversial subject, and emotions are going to fly, so I think it would be safe to have this thread moved to the Dog House!
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  12. #87
    What's wrong with ignoring? I am so sick of people assuming that I have to go all gaa gaa over every kid that waves at me.
    ~nods~ i totally agree, we do not have to speak/smile/drool over everychild that comes up and does the whole "look arnt i just the cutest thing you have ever seen" act

    oh how i wish there was a vomiting smilie

    one quick note, im not saying that i hate children (hate is such a harsh word) i just dislike them , and i know i would make a ghastly human mother and it would be down right selfish of me to ever consider having a child in my life (not that it would happen any) ~shudders at the thought~

    well im off to bed now, and will probably dream of children ~URGH~ after reading through this thread

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  13. #88
    Originally posted by luckies4me
    I'd also like to add, that this is a controversial subject, and emotions are going to fly, so I think it would be safe to have this thread moved to the Dog House!
    I think you're right - it should probably be moved to the dog house...
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  14. #89
    Who cares anymore? LOL


    I just saw something really funny and now I cannot stop laughing.


    cloverfdx- I LOVE the saying in your profile........about putting all men on the moon. hahah that just made me chuckle.


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  15. #90
    thats right each to there own- so to speak

    LMAO oh dear i thought id get told to take that out of my signiture

    it is from www.internetstickers.com and there are some realy great ones there
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