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    13 72.22%
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Thread: What's w/all the neutering???

  1. #76
    Originally posted by boscibo
    popcornbird - you sound like you're a bright, well rounded young person, and an asset to Pet Talk.

    About the neutering. I really don't like to argue or even discuss religious topics on public Internet forums, but -

    Yes, animals are God's creations, and he made them a certain way. But if you think like that, think about this. We came into the world naked, without any clothes. That must be the way God intended us to be, right? Yet you will find very few (if any) humans that go around naked all the time. Sometimes we (as thinking beings) have to bend the rules a little. In the case of pet overpopulation and the whole neutering/spaying debate, I think it is justified.

    There simply isn't enough homes for them all. We need to take care of animals on this earth, and if there was any other way to keep overpopulation under control (even a little bit) we would do it differently.

    I personally think it is cruel to keep an animal like a cat or dog intact if you are keeping it for a pet. The un-neutered animal will have urges that it cannot satisfy. It can't understand why it can't breed to relieve these feelings, and that can be very frustrating and even painful for the animal. Like an itch you can't scratch, only 1000 times worse.
    Well, I don't think its comparable to clothes because clothes aren't a part of your body. A collar is more comparable to clothes. I actually don't know much on this subject, but if I ever decide to get a cat, I will definitely do a LOT of research on it before making my decision. I just don't know enough to say. It sounds scary to me, but I've never experienced a pet going through it, and I know you all do it for the best. I just can't see myself doing that to an animal. As I said, I would prefer to get an already altered kitty, because that way it would be fixed, and I wouldn't be the one that had to do it. I had never known that spaying/neutering even existed several years ago , but then again, I was young and didn't know a lot in this world. I don't know if having an unaltered pet is cruelty, because no one alters birds and other small animals, and they have desires too. Its just too risky for some animals. The overpopulation is defintely a problem, and if this is the only way to solve it, its much better than having so many animals die.

  2. #77
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    There's also other reasons for spay/neuter other than the overpopulation problem.. another big reason is it reduces the risk of cancer, therefore making a happier and healthier pet. It can also prevent behavior problems such as fighting with other dogs (if 2 intact males are around a female, watch out).
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

  3. #78
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    Finally someone mentioned the cancer aspect to spaying. Besides how miserable female cats are who are in season and do not have access to a male. The only way to bring them out of season is manually. Personally I find that rather offensive.

    I have spent many years on discussion boards and chat rooms. In fact I met my husband in a chat room on August 28 1997. Best thing I ever did... . However...I have also seen many many such as "Carlotta" They are attention getters. They rarely have anything of real relevance or importance or even interest to add to any discussion. Most of the time they are not even what they "say" they are. One evening I was in a chat room, an adult one, and there was a person in there who had opened up 4 browsers and was having a "personal" chat with himself as a man and a woman...while he was also in as two other "people" and trying to cause havoc amoung the other chatters. The saddest thing is he was a moderator of the site and accidently screwed up and booted someone under one of his alternate names. Carlotta is the same sort...and if she isn't than she is a very young, very stupid and very ignorant know it all teenager who has had little real education in this world. With her inability to learn or listen she won't have a very happy life. So I feel more sorry for her than angry.

    I don't mind intelligent, thoughtful young people on here. There are some I have to say I pretty much discount. But there are others who I enjoy reading their posts and I hope they go far in their lives.

    I have to say this however, I cannot stand the "shortcuts" young people often use in posting. In all honesty I skip over and start discounting anyone's post that includes things such as "u", "r" and ppl. To me that is just laziness and if you do not have the respect to actually type out the correct word then why should I be interested in what you have to say. Ok...my rant.

    Denyce

  4. #79
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    what duz that mean. I'm a kitten in this place!
    kitten, go fend for yourself.

  5. #80
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    Okay guys... I think he/she has left so lets have everyone move on. Remember, we promised Karen we'd be good.

    *HUGS*
    ~Kimmy, Zam, Logan, Raptor, Nimrod, Mei, Jasper, Esme, & Lucy Inara
    RIP Kia, Chipper, Morla, & June

  6. #81
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    this little brat is not worth our time, to argue with her... its obvious.. school is out and she needs someone to bother... maybe a good day care or summer school would work for her, and less time unsupervised. 15 should be old enough, but obviously not in her case.
    those cats with the wonderful outdoor life, hmm wonder what happens to them when they attack each other and get seriously hurt, maybe the vets that only care about money can help them.

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