Dog Races

[Nomilynn]

I think the difference is at THIS particular board, the members here see taking in an animal as a lifelong commitment. Not our life, but theirs.

I do not have a dog at present, but I have in the past. The thought of keeping them just long enough to use them for ANY reason other than companionship makes me sick. I have two cats. The are now 2 and 3 years old. Did I get rid of them when they stopped looking like a kitten and hand them off to an adult cat rescue? No. And I wouldn't. They are my babies. How dare anyone take in any animal and then cast them off after a couple years. How do you think it would feel to a little kid if his or her parents adopted him out after he stopped fitting into cute little kid clothing, for example? Probably like a piece of crap.

Dogs can't reason like we do, and it's shameful that people who take in a greyhound somehow think it's ok to keep taking them in because they will eventually adopt them out to good homes. These animals love us UNCONDITIONALLY and it is absolutley wrong to get an animal knowing full well it won't be kept in the only home it's known for longer than a couple years.

And really, this is not the first time that Cali has recruited people from another board and used the other boards to talk crap about Pet Talk. Which is pretty disgusting in itself. I've been a member here for about 2 years. These are the most caring, loving, generous, giving, sensitive people I've ever met and they have helped me personally on a tremendous level. These people are my friends, and I respect them. I have little respect for people who come to this board for the soul purpose of calling them ignorant or uneducated.

So, if I'm wrong for having respect for people who take in an animal for LIFE, who care enough for their well being to offer an animal the stability, long term love and devotion it DESERVES then I'm perfectly happy being wrong.

[cloverfdx]

A racing kennel will NEVER keep dogs until they find a home.

You have not met friends of mine then, the dogs they cannot rehome are ALWAYS kept on as companions, along with the ones they do NOT try to rehome because they cannot part with them.

[Kfamr]

Gosh, I'm sick of this person talking to us as if we know NOTHING about dogs.

So with what your saying that there should be no pure bed dogs. No dogs bred unless you plan on keeping every dog that you bring into this world.

NO She DID NOT say that or even mention of it. Responsible Pure-Bred breeders don't keep their animals for years, now do they?

Personally, I treat my dogs as if they are my children. I do not have human children as of now, but my dogs are treated just as I would treat them, if not better.

IMO, what people do to these greyhounds (breed them, race them, dump them) would be like me having a child, raising it, and then giving it to someone else after I've taken it through soccer practice or something.


No one here is denying that greyhounds like to run, but do you honestly think it's the right thing to do to keep getting animals and then giving them off after they can no longer race, as if it were a piece of property?

It's like selling an old 1999 Chevorlet because you wanted a brand new 2005.

Originally posted by Nomilynn
And really, this is not the first time that Cali has recruited people from another board and used the other boards to talk crap about Pet Talk. Which is pretty disgusting in itself. I've been a member here for about 2 years. These are the most caring, loving, generous, giving, sensitive people I've ever met and they have helped me personally on a tremendous level. These people are my friends, and I respect them. I have little respect for people who come to this board for the soul purpose of calling them ignorant or uneducated.

Exactly!

Another person and I were talking about this last night.
She's talked so much crap about PT, then she goes and whines that she doesn't get many replies to her threads. WELL.. this is why most of the time people ignore her threads. No matter what we say to her, we're always wrong and she's always right, and nothing we say ever sinks in. And then eventually she goes and grabs one of her other board which she's "been a member of far longer than Pet Talk" which in reality this one was only joined a few days before PT was joined.

I've been on PT for almost 4 years. I've gained SO many friends - online and in real life - and the people here have shown me there is actual hope that there are GOOD people out there! I've never been to another board that i've been so pleased as I have with PT.

If PT wasn't such a great place.. I wouldn't have driven to Ohio TWICE this year to visit with them, nor would I be flying to Utah this Thanksgiving to spend time with one of my best PT friends.

Even after being on other boards the same amount of time as PT, i've never felt the same way as I do with Pet Talk.

[GraciesMommy]

I haven't responded since starting this thread only to say that I didn't mean to start anything by it..once I started reading some of the responses.


Let me say this...in my ignorance I did not realize this was such a controversial subject...I only polled it because they were talking about it at work and it made me think it was a good poll to add..
I had no idea it would be such a heated topic. I apologize for my ignorance in asking it in the first place. I certainly did not mean for it to get out of hand.

I am new to pet forums (one month old) and I just wanted to contribute and get to know some people with the same interests as me....their furbabies/kids...I love this place and sure hope no one holds any hard feelings because of my mistake of starting this poll.

~big hugs

[Kfamr]

Pamela, please do not feel as if it were your fault.

It is not your fault at all that these people chose to respond in such a way.

You've done nothing wrong at all


Those pictures are adorable!

[shutterbug0303]

Originally posted by greysandmoregreys
We would be left with greyhounds, the only dog mentioned in the Bible, and what maybe a mastiff?

At least we could still have GREAT DANES!!!!!!!!!!

GD = grey + mastiff

*edit* Forgot to mention this...I am definately ANTI DOG-RACING! No way, no how!! Good going to everyone here @ PT who is standing tall for what they believe in!

[senorita02]

I am utterly disgusted by any "sport" or "entertainment" that uses an innocent animal, then euthanizes (at best) the "athletes" once they're used up or don't perform well enough. And don't fool yourself into thinking that doesn't happen. If anyone believes that they all are treated wonderfully, are all placed in loving homes at the end of their "careers", then they’re stupid or just have their head in the sand.

Disgusting

I think so too
And so does FACE & RITA

I especially hate hearing of the Bull running in Spain, Rita is appauled TOO! "she is from Spain"

[Love Greyhounds]

Let me say this...in my ignorance I did not realize this was such a controversial subject...I only polled it because they were talking about it at work and it made me think it was a good poll to add..I had no idea it would be such a heated topic. I apologize for my ignorance in asking it in the first place. I certainly did not mean for it to get out of hand.

I've had pet greyhounds since the late 80's, so I've heard and read the bashing for years. It gets much worse than this on greyhound boards. You have both ends of the spectrum and everything inbetween. There's the anti-racing faction, such as greyhoundracingsucks.com who will settle for nothing less than ending the "sport." There are pro-racing people who lurk on pet boards for the sole purpose of attacking anyone who says that atrocities still exist, and the industry needs improvement. If they can shove the dirt under the rug and drum up some recruits in the process, they're happy.

The truth probably lies somewhere between the two extremes. Most of us agree that the dogs love to run. There's no way you could know that these things are debated endlessly. You have a nice board here. Keep up the good work.

[cali]

"been a member of far longer than Pet Talk" which in reality this one was only joined a few days before PT was joined.

and yet again, YOU dont know the whole story, greytalk is one of the first boards I ever joined, however I used to be Calico23 until my computer was hacked through another boards that is linked to greytalk, I had to resign up to greytalk, and the other board under a different name, AKC bc_girl. and when there was a glitch in the system my account was doubled 14 times somehow, so all but 1 were deleted, it was the wronge one though, so that got be bumped back to the beginning yet again.

[cali]

And really, this is not the first time that Cali has recruited people from another board and used the other boards to talk crap about Pet Talk

oh, oh thats right, I went to another board when I was being flamed that NO good breeder in their right mind would feed home prepared or follow a limited vaccine protocal, yes I remeber now, this was back when I was the only one on the board that fed home prepared and follow a limited vaccine protocal, I told you guys that such breeders DID exist, and proved it by bringing over another person who knows these breeders personally, the one is her aunt, the other a friend of theirs. oh yes I have talked cr*p about pettalk before on other boards, I had to vent my anger somehow, obviously I cant vent it here lol and lets see, I have vented my anger on this board on another board ONCE. wow, I am a truely horrable person, that you cant change the mind of, and you cant make me see the light AKA any veiw that is'nt mine. by the way someing you guys should know, not that you care, is that I used to think klike you guys did, then I decided to do my own research instead of just going with the crowd, my mom tought me to do that, she tought me to form my own opinions before walking with the crowd, and I did, more research and EVERY topic I feel strongly about, I used to be on the other side of, cuz well everyone else was, then I formed my OWN opinions, and changed sides, I have been accused many many many times of lying and having never actually done any research, not in the thread itself, people say "good for you for having done research" then PM me calling me a lier who never researched a damn thing.

I shall just delete this last part as I have no doubt it will be picked apart, and I will be called a lier once again. by the ways NEVER have a lied on this board.

[greytmomof3]

I know many in the racing industry that do hold their adoptable greyhounds until a group is found. I recently adopted a senior that spent two years on his owner's farm until a group took him. There is good and bad in any walk of life. However, to look at a group as a whole and label them bad, abusive, neglectful, etc. is irresponsible and narrow-minded. A friend of mine, a greyhound owner, has been in racing since the 70's and he has never put down a greyhound. I applaud him and all the responsible owners. I have had owner's donate money and food to our program. I have had them call me to find out where their greyhound was adopted. The racing industry is committed to achieving 100% adoption, I know that we are trying to help them get there.
Some adoption groups like to keep the AR agenda going. They believe it helps them with their adoption numbers. The "save a life" hook is too tempting for them.

[aly]

Originally posted by Love Greyhounds
I've had pet greyhounds since the late 80's, so I've heard and read the bashing for years. It gets much worse than this on greyhound boards. You have both ends of the spectrum and everything inbetween. There's the anti-racing faction, such as greyhoundracingsucks.com who will settle for nothing less than ending the "sport." There are pro-racing people who lurk on pet boards for the sole purpose of attacking anyone who says that atrocities still exist, and the industry needs improvement. If they can shove the dirt under the rug and drum up some recruits in the process, they're happy.

The truth probably lies somewhere between the two extremes. Most of us agree that the dogs love to run. There's no way you could know that these things are debated endlessly. You have a nice board here. Keep up the good work.

Thank you very much for your kind post and input! Welcome to PT

[greysandmoregreys]

Sick of me? Sorry that you feel that way. I enjoy being educated on all aspects of dogs. Weather that be poodles or greyhounds, Frenchies, or Great Danes.

I like to hear what all sides have to say. I enjoy expanding my mind and learning everything possible there is to learn.

Even if you take the best care of your dogs while they are with you I don't agree with your breeding an animal so you can be entertained with it.

AKC breeders do this all to often. Showing dogs, breeding to make the standard of the AKC "better" though I beg to differ on that after what has been done to most of the GSD out there kinda makes me sad.

Yes Purebred breeders do keep there dogs for years. They raise a litter of pups. Find a quality pup that meets the AKC standards, show the pup, then if the pup did well in the AKC shows then they will breed that dog to continue on the good lines, and then when the dog is done being bred most will retire the dog and find it a good home.

So what Uabasson is saying according to you that it's just greyhound breeders that shouldn't exsist and that all the other breeders out there are ok?

How about people that breed sled dogs? are they ok?
Or hunting dogs? are they ok?
Or the police that use there dogs for work?
Or the programs that use dogs for hearing impared or sight impaired? What do they do with the ones that don't make the programs? They find them homes. Now they bred them for one sole purpose and if the dog doesn't fit the bill the move it on to a home.

Is this ok?

I really am not trying to piss anyone off, really

I just want people to know that it's not all bad as so many seem to believe.

I started out AR, I believed all the things I heard and the pictures I saw. Until I took it upon myself to go to the inside and see for myself.

I feel I make a difference for the greyhounds. Every hound that is in my care weather that be that I own it or it races in my kennels will have a forever home. No question!!

So I feel I make a difference in these dogs lives

I don't want people adopting them because they feel bad for the dog I want them to adopt because they are an amazing breed.
We all know how pity adoptions go and most of the time it's not a good thing.

Originally posted by Kfamr
Gosh, I'm sick of this person talking to us as if we know NOTHING about dogs.





NO She DID NOT say that or even mention of it. Responsible Pure-Bred breeders don't keep their animals for years, now do they?

Personally, I treat my dogs as if they are my children. I do not have human children as of now, but my dogs are treated just as I would treat them, if not better.

IMO, what people do to these greyhounds (breed them, race them, dump them) would be like me having a child, raising it, and then giving it to someone else after I've taken it through soccer practice or something.


No one here is denying that greyhounds like to run, but do you honestly think it's the right thing to do to keep getting animals and then giving them off after they can no longer race, as if it were a piece of property?

It's like selling an old 1999 Chevorlet because you wanted a brand new 2005.




Exactly!

Another person and I were talking about this last night.
She's talked so much crap about PT, then she goes and whines that she doesn't get many replies to her threads. WELL.. this is why most of the time people ignore her threads. No matter what we say to her, we're always wrong and she's always right, and nothing we say ever sinks in. And then eventually she goes and grabs one of her other board which she's "been a member of far longer than Pet Talk" which in reality this one was only joined a few days before PT was joined.

I've been on PT for almost 4 years. I've gained SO many friends - online and in real life - and the people here have shown me there is actual hope that there are GOOD people out there! I've never been to another board that i've been so pleased as I have with PT.

If PT wasn't such a great place.. I wouldn't have driven to Ohio TWICE this year to visit with them, nor would I be flying to Utah this Thanksgiving to spend time with one of my best PT friends.

Even after being on other boards the same amount of time as PT, i've never felt the same way as I do with Pet Talk.

[micki76]

Originally posted by greysandmoregreys

Mickey you stated that it was a retired racer and there you were wrong.

For anyone else that would like to take a look at the whole story about Daisy you can click here:


How can you even be sure that this was a race greyhound? Could have been someone breeding greyhounds for pets, or an
AKC hound, or a coursing dog.Daisy's whole story

Because I TALKED to these people in person last night. Somehow they didn't strike me as liars. The last time anything was updated on the site about Daisy was on 10/6. Could they have learned anymore information since then? Wow! Probably so! They told me they KNEW her former racing name. I can't remember it, but it was (something) in the Clover. I guess I could call and bother Steve, but they have an event today, and I'm sure he's too busy to bother with such trivial crap. I don't feel I have to prove anything to you, and even if I did, you aren't likely to change your mind based on anything I have to say. And I think we all know there's no way you're changing mine.

FYI-my name is spelled M I C K I. I'm not a boy.

Cali, your behavior on this board has been this way since I can remember. You wonder why people don't like you, or respond to your threads? Could it be your superior attitude that YOUR way is the ONLY way? Could it be that you look down your nose at anyone who DARES to disagree with you on what you think is right, which is usually against everything that most members of PT believe in?

You have no tact, child. None.

For anyone interested, here's the entire website: Greyhounds Unlimited

[Kfamr]

And for anyone who's interested to see where these people are coming from, the thread is here.


We're all close-minded and know absolutely nothing.


Good going, Cali! You sure must be proud of yourself.