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  • Obama

    43 58.11%
  • McCain

    25 33.78%
  • Barr (Libertarian)

    3 4.05%
  • McKinney (Green)

    0 0%
  • Nader (Independent)

    3 4.05%
  • Baldwin (Constitution)

    0 0%
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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    OT - I have watched a couple of interviews, etc - and MANY people are just going to be plain EXHAUSTED after tonight...the volunteers, staff, workers, and - not the least - the candidates.

    But whoever the new President is - does he get any days off to recoup? Maybe some down time before the swearing in?
    Whoever wins tonight will not actually be sworn in until January 20th
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    Ruined? No. But it could be better. I hope it will get better.

    I used to enjoy far more entertainment before we were raped with gas prices. My hubby and I rarely go on dates anymore because we can't afford it. When we see each other that is since he has to work two part time jobs to make ends meet.

    I'm grateful we do have food in our cupboards, but it's the bare minimum and mostly staples. Can barely afford fresh or organic. I splurge on soy milk though.

    Blessed I have a car and a roof over my head.

    A lot has changed in the past eight years though. I wish I could be fat, lazy, and sloth.
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    I never said the country was completely ruined, I said Bush is ruining it though. And actually I spent my entire summer at Six Flags working my a$$ off, and I spend 8 hours in school and another 2-3 hours doing homework and studying nearly everyday. I don't exactly think I get more entertainment then work. AND I'm on a diet

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    Fair enough Ramanath and Allysser. (SP, )

    Would you be willing to answer my question then? Please explain to me why YOU think Obama's economic plan will fix things?

    Personally, I think he will make things worse. MUCH worse.

    I see people voting for Obama because they are pissed off at Bush and rightly so. But NObody has yet told me how Obama's policies will GROW the economy.

    It's to the point where the unified silence is deafening.

    I promise, right hand on the Bible to NOT tear apart anyone who answers the challenge. All I would like is ONE honest answer.
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    PS - I think only the next government of the US - as any nation's government - can really answer that question. What candidates SAY and what they are actually able to DO can be two (or more) very different things.

    207 to 135....kind of close!
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    Puckstop, here's the answer as I perceive it.

    The MOST wealthy of this country can afford to pay more in taxes and still live their wonderful lifestyles. That money will be used to fund Obama's plans, etc. etc.

    The less wealthy, which probably includes 95-98% of us, won't get an increase in taxes.

    The money has to come from somewhere. Taxes DO need to be taken and, realistically, raised. We've got a huge deficit. We need the money. The money needs to be taken from somewhere. Take it from those who can afford to pay it - the very very rich and the big corporations. Invest that. So, yes, there will be an even bigger deficit for the time being. But there's the catch - you invest it. You should get it back and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    PS - I think only the next government of the US - as any nation's government - can really answer that question. What candidates SAY and what they are actually able to DO can be two (or more) very different things.

    207 to 135....kind of close!
    Of course... But in a democracy, the government is supposed to BE the people.


    So I challenge the people who are voting for the guy who seems to be winning to tell me how they think Obama's policies will benefit the economy.

    Such a simple question on such an important issue should be easy to answer, right?

    Or are they just voting against Bush... Who is not even on the ballot!!!

    But it's all good... In the end, we will get the government we deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alysser View Post
    I never really cared much for politics till this election, this is really exciting!! My stupid history teacher gave us a map to color for it, I hate her but anyway this is pretty exciting. I can't believe Obama won Ohio! Democrats have never won that state. I hope he gets Calif.
    Also, Alyssa, you won't need to hope. California is pretty darn blue.. Probably one of the bluest states. I think we're fighting with NY for that title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giselle View Post
    Puckstop, here's the answer as I perceive it.

    The MOST wealthy of this country can afford to pay more in taxes and still live their wonderful lifestyles. That money will be used to fund Obama's plans, etc. etc.
    So we punish success. How American. As for Obama's plans... When did we become a nation that looks to government to solve our problems? Last I checked, we were supposed to be a nation of go getters and self starters.

    The less wealthy, which probably includes 95-98% of us, won't get an increase in taxes.
    So the bump in your tax rate when he lets the tax cuts expire is what???

    The money has to come from somewhere. Taxes DO need to be taken and, realistically, raised. We've got a huge deficit. We need the money. The money needs to be taken from somewhere. Take it from those who can afford to pay it - the very very rich and the big corporations.
    Why not cut spending to pay for it? You know, all that totally unconsitutional spending congress does...

    If you lay heavy taxes on big biz,,, How do you think they will recover the extra cost? Higher prices on everything... Its simple Economics 101.

    Invest that. So, yes, there will be an even bigger deficit for the time being. But there's the catch - you invest it. You should get it back and more.
    Invest it in what? The stock market? With a high tax, investment prohibitive Obama econony?

    Higher taxes = economic depression. Period.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Something that happens in Canada, and I am sure in the US as well...

    If the really rich get taxed too much, the money gets stashed in an offshore account. So it all leaves the country.

    The next government will have to deal with that, for sure.
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    Tomorrow...

    I am renewing my CCW, buying a pistol and putting a down payment on a battle rifle... To be paid off before Obama takes his oath (with his fingers crossed, I guess...)

    THEN, bury it in a secret spot and pray everyday I don't need to dig it up...

    Not being crazy... Just a good Boy Scout.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

    - Sun Tzu - Art of War

  12. Breaking my rules for the greater good!

    Hey guys! PS wants you to write things about Obama's plans so he can write crap about how wrong you are and how evil Obama is!

    Don't drink his Kool-Aid...let him find his own juices in which to stew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Hey guys! PS wants you to write things about Obama's plans so he can write crap about how wrong you are and how evil Obama is!

    Don't drink his Kool-Aid...let him find his own juices in which to stew!
    LMFAO

    YOu make me laugh.

    I'm sure everyone here can think for themselves without needing you to take their hand and guide them




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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Fair enough Ramanath and Allysser. (SP, )

    Would you be willing to answer my question then? Please explain to me why YOU think Obama's economic plan will fix things?
    According to both Obama's and McCain's sites, all I see are promises of tax cuts.

    All you ask is about tax hikes... I'm not seeing it.

    But then, I never watched the debates and pretty much avoided tv as a whole these past months, so maybe I missed something.

    Like I said, I didn't vote for Obama based on his economic plan, so I can't give you the answer you seek.
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