I need to tell everyone something...

[DogLover9501]

Originally posted by wolf_Q
I have the same thoughts as Kay. I'll leave it at that.

Ditto...

[cloverfdx]

I am in agreeance with Kay etc .

What happens when Jake grows up, just like Junior, Ginger and Reggie have done. I cannot see how those 3 gorgeous dogs have not been a comfort to you in the past monts.

[CathyBogart]

You know what Tina - People here get flak from other members if they do anything other then go through a rescue to adopt a new puppy. Honestly....I feel the same way about "oops" litter puppies as I do about feeder rats...

While I don't recommend or advocate getting a pet rat out of a feeder bin, or a puppy that shouldn' have been born...if one tugs at your heartstrings, you can't help it.

I admit I would feel differently if you had gone to a pet store or someone who was intentionally breeding puppies with no concern for what they were doing. My first dog was from an "oops" litter though, and he was wonderful. Best of luck with your new friend.

[Tina]

Thanks for those that again have said nothing but kind words.

You know what alot of you don't know me but you think you do! I can't understand how you can judge someone that you do not know. All you all can do is look on the bad side of things.

wolfsoul if you go back and read some of my post you would know. I've told you all I had to rehome everyone except Ginger, Junior, Reggie and Fuzzy Wuzzy(cat)

Of course alot of you are going side with Kay because you are the ones talked about my pets in the past.

You Do Not know me or the situations I've had to go through. So please Do Not Judge me!!

I've had hard enough time going through all I've had and here people are bringing up my past. Hey I know there are quiet a few people has had a rocky past on here and you don't throw their past up on here. I just don't understand it. It is like alot people here look at the bad side and not the good at all.

Also you all didn't know what was going through my mind after the fire. I mean geesh I was looking out for my pets and trying not to hurt them. I was only looking out for the best interest for them not myself. Sure I could have kept them and struggled trying take care of them. I think it is better where they have homes and care for them.

My gosh until some of you ain't living with your parents and out in the real world do not judge!!

[micki76]

Originally posted by wolfsoul
It seems like you go through alot of pets. There are still some I can't figure out what happened to. What happened to Tigger? Your bunnies? Gracie? Harley? Pepper? Fuzzy Wuzzy? Annie? Bandit? Smokey? Ozzie? Feathers? And then you gave away Trixie...One of your rabbits somehow runs away...Ember mysteriously dies while being spayed...Josie dies from a bad heart...Gave away Zoey...Sold Babe...Then you gave away your cats after the fire...

This is the crux of the issue. You have ‘rehomed’ SO MANY pets (and I mean before the fire), have had pets that have died, or “didn’t work out”, etc. in the last two and a half years that of course we’re worried about you getting yet another pet. The fact that you’ve stated that you were depressed and that it made you feel better to get this puppy is really, really, really sad to me. I haven’t gotten any of my pets to make me feel better. I got them because I was capable of providing them a LONG term, forever home, not a temporary home.

Like I said before, you need to find a better way of dealing with your depression. Getting pets and then giving them back, or rehoming them is just cruel and confusing to the pets. We all make mistakes and many people have rehomed a pet. Most people only do it one time, though and then learn from that mistake.

Honestly, I would think getting a pet and then rehoming it would make me more depressed.

It’s not all about you Tina, it’s about these animals. I don’t hate you-I have no reason to; I just hate to see this happen to innocent animals over and over and over again.

[Tina]

Like I said you don't know me or what kind of situation I was going through. So you can not judge me. You can only accuse me of stuff!

I didn't say anything was all about me did I? No I did not! I am tired of being accused of being cruel! I am not a cruel person! If you knew me in real life you would know that. But no one wants try get know real me.

I know you are concerned over my pets but don't be. They have loving homes!

I am getting help with my depression I've done told said it I don't know how many times now. Of course you must not read my post before I was going in for therapy today.

I just really don't understand how you can judge my life when you are not here with me.

[PJ's Mom]

Tina, I don't know you, or your situation. Because of this, I am not going to judge you. I do know that Jake is adorable and it sounds like you both need each other a lot. If there is something going on with your pets that isn't right, you have to live with it, and I truly believe in the saying "what goes around, comes around." I pity you if/when that day comes.

However, if everything you say is true, I wish you nothing but happiness with your new puppy and with your other babies as well. Keep us posted on how they're doing, and be sure to post lots of pictures!

[Tina]

There is nothing going on bad with my pets. There are just people that think I've been doing bad things. I've told nothing but the truth here to people.

I've also tried to be nice to everyone but then I learn they are saying things about me. If they would read some of my post and not accuse of stuff they would know the truth. But of course they make things sound worse then they are.

Like I said they don't know me and they don't know what has gone on in my life. If they knew then they would not be saying such bad things.. really!

Thankyou for the kind words about Jake!!

[aly]

TINA -

Nobody thinks you're a bad person. No one thinks you're cruel, mean, evil, whatever. You are right that none of us can judge you because we simply don't know you.

We do know certain things however, and those are the things we've expressed concern about. I have never seen anyone judge your character. I have only seen expressed concern for your animals. We're all here because we love animals. I don't doubt that you love animals very much as well. However, and this is not a judgement call but purely factual, you have gone through an insane amount of animals during the past couple years. I know things happen sometimes and the fire was truely tragic for you. But there were tons of animals that were killed or given away before that. You have shared many of those stories with us, although you have deleted almost all of those posts now.

So when people express concern, they are not jumping to conclusions at all. You have told us many things which you've now deleted. You admitted that you make decisions in haste and need help in that and I am TRULY glad that you are getting help. Next time this happens, I hope you will think more about what you're actually doing before jumping into it head first.

Your daughters need a strong mom, so take care of yourself. Take things one day at a time and lean on your family and current animals for comfort.

[petslover]

Hey Tina,
I have to say your puppy is so cute. I love the picture and I can't wait to see more pictures.

[Dixieland Dancer]

Tina,
I don't know you or your situation since I haven't posted on pet talk for the past couple years. I try to live by the rule of "let him who is without sin, cast the first stone".

I only have one question. Why were so many of your past animals rehomed? I understand from reading the thread that you had a house fire in December and you had to find homes for some of them then. But it sounds like this has happened before the fire too. Again, Why were so many of your past pets rehomed? Hopefully that will not happen when the new pup is not so little and a bundle of fluff anymore but a grown dog. I think that is the whole reason for anyone having an objection to your getting a new puppy.

Personally, my concern with this post is that you are clearly in a state of depression. I hope you get the emotional help you need. Depression is not something to take lightly. If left untreated, life can only become more miserable and complicated. But there is help available, you just need to work on getting it. It takes a lot of work and determination and a good counselor. Please seek quality medical treatment not only for yourself but for your daughters, husband and your animals. I understand depression since I was in that state many years ago too. Life can be better but you are going to have to work hard to emerge from it. I wish you the best.

[carole]

Tina people can only judge you by what you write in your posts, that is how they know you,

I can honestly say I believe you are a kind caring human being, but you have some problems that need addressing, and it appears you are dealing with those, which is great to hear and should be your uppermost priority, alot of us have been there , done that so to speak, so feel free to pm us and chat about it, we can only hope to offer you some support and friendship.

No-one can hate you, we don't really know you as you have told us, so it is only out of concern , nothing else, so please take it for what it is ok.

Jake looks so adorable, and if you feel now you are in a position to offer him a good home, then I hope it all works out.

Everyone makes mistakes Tina, and as long as we learn from them, that is what really matters here.

Now Tina when you posted this thread, you knew full well some people would have issues with what you were doing, those who did not, simply did not know the full story,so obviously there would be some negativity in responses, as long as you know in your heart, you have made a good decision here, then you should not feel any guilt, I guess Tina you could take the attitude, I WILL SHOW THEM, everyone deserves a second chance.

Good luck with your appointment, and I really hope you can start to feel well again and soon, keep in mind that because you are feeling depressed, it will seem that the world is against you, when in reality they are not, most people on PT here just want to help you and be your friend, even if it does not seem that way to you,I can assure you it is probably more so the case.

[Tina]

Dixieland Dancer- why was so many of my pets rehomed in the past? There was not that many!

I had to give up Trixie the chihuahua because she did not like my husband. She would bark at him all of the time and hide from him. He did not like that he told me I had to find her a home.

Zoey I had to take her back to the shelter because she attacked one of my cats. I could not keep her around the cats.

Tigger I rehomed him because he did not get along with another cat of mine.

Ozzie and Little Kitty ended up with my neighbors because Ozzie was fighting with Fuzzy Wuzzy and making her miserable. And Little Kitty loved Ozzie so she went live with him.

Annie I had to give back or her owners was going call the cops on me! They said they wanted her back! At the time I didn't know any better and gave her back. Sure yeah I could have faught to keep her!

I know I made lots of sudden decisions after rehoming these pets and getting another one. Which I want to change!! I don't think it is normal for a person and something I can not control! That is why I'm getting help.

As for Babe the horse you all keep bring up. I sold her before I even came here to Pet Talk. I could not afford to take care of her. Plus we did not have our own land.

[carole]

Tina I am glad that you did manage to re-home all the pets, that is something we all should keep in mind, Tina did not dump any of the pets, leaving them to fiend for themselves, like i said Tina just learn from any mistakes you have made, and learn not to act on impulse and that will indeed be a step in the right direction. GOOD LUCK, and let us know how you got on with the Doctor.

[K9soul]

Tina, I have been pondering how best to respond here over the past day or so. I realize you are feeling particularly sensitive and vulnerable right now, and that the least bit of disapproval feels like a punch to the gut, and perhaps with each one you feel a bit more of a failure. I'm torn between understanding what you are going through with this depression, being worried for your family and pets, and being worried for you. I know how utterly dark and miserable and suffocating depression can be, day after day. I know how something new and exciting can lift that for awhile, and how after awhile one seeks out that feeling to push away the day to day misery. It can feel like you are drowning, and a drowning person will instinctively grab ahold of anything to keep afloat.

I tell you this from personal experience. I did not take on more dogs and cats, though I cannot rule out that I wouldn't have if my mom and living situation would have allowed it. I'd go out and get something beautiful that I could care for, most often fish or plants. For awhile they would push away the darkness and I'd feel actually happy inside. Inevitably, at some point I would just take on too much, and the weight of all the responsibility would begin pushing me back down. Then I'd see a plant here or there dying because I had neglected it, or the fish swimming in a dirty tank, and suddenly I felt lower than low, disgusted and ashamed of myself, my energy and will power went out the window and I slumped down deeper than ever. So I would work to fix the problem, lighten my load by giving away the plants and fish to people I knew, because I was just too overwhelmed and didn't have the money to take proper care of all of it. It was a vicious cycle. I don't know if this is what is going on with you, but it is what went on with me. I was not a bad or unloving person, and neither are you. But I did have problems.

Like you, I finally did seek help. Counseling did not do a lot for me, but it can help some people a lot. I also went on an antidepressant for a time, which helped some. But what helped me the most was reading and learning all about the disease of depression. The more I understood what was going on, the more I didn't feel so controlled by it. I read a lot of self help books, books on relaxation and meditation, books on dealing with anxiety and depression, feel-good books like the Chicken Soup for the Soul series. I think those helped me the most. Getting involved in a club or group of some type can be a very healing thing as well. Perhaps look into doing therapy with one of your dogs, or agility, or something fun you can do together. If you can't afford because of the upkeep of too many pets, perhaps it would be best to rehome some so you could truly spend some time doing something with one. I'm not trying to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, I'm trying to throw out options or ideas, because Tina I think some things need to change or be done for you to start healing and pulling out of this rut you are in emotionally.

Jake is a beautiful puppy, and precious. If you feel you can really provide him the home and attention and training he needs to have the best quality of life he can, go for it with all your heart. If you feel deep down you can't really give him what he needs, and that will later cause you shame and guilt, then perhaps foster him instead, and help find him the perfect home. But you will need to go with your heart on it, because you are right, only you truly know what is going on with your life. Tina, I wish you, your family, and all your furkids the best. Try to be strong, it is hard, but I have confidence in you. I made it through, and I never thought I'd be strong enough. That's why I know you can too.