the presidential debates

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by caseysmom
Popcornbird, If muffin or popcorn were running against bush I would vote for them!

LOL!!!!!!! Popcorn and Muffin feel honored. Maybe they should run for president in the next elections. President Popcorn. He he he. I'm laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes!!!

[Karen]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
I have a question. If my support had been for Bush instead of Kerry, would I still have been asked to remove that political button or just asked to get rid of that one word?

You could have PM'd me this question, and gotten an answer quicker, but my answer is still the same.

Politics belong in the Dog House on Pet Talk. A signature graphic shows up on every post. Do not put politics stuff, regardless of its slant, in your signature file!

Also, do not make any assumptions about my politics because of me asking you to remove a graphic. I try hard to be a decent moderator, and non-partisan in my requests.

[dukedogsmom]

I was asking the question in general and didn't intend for it to be taken hatefully.

[DJFyrewolf36]

Originally posted by caseysmom
Popcornbird, If muffin or popcorn were running against bush I would vote for them!

Popcorn for prez and Muffin as VP...Id vote that ticket in a heartbeat. Gahh, I feel so icky this election. This is worse than Bush/Gore. IMO both canidates have demonstrated an incredible knack for looking like morons.

It is a sad state of affairs when one must choose between the lesser of two idiots instead of choosing the best person for the job.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by DJFyrewolf36
Popcorn for prez and Muffin as VP...Id vote that ticket in a heartbeat. Gahh, I feel so icky this election. This is worse than Bush/Gore. IMO both canidates have demonstrated an incredible knack for looking like morons.

It is a sad state of affairs when one must choose between the lesser of two idiots instead of choosing the best person for the job.

He he he! Exactly.......I think Kerry's an idiot too...honestly, but Bush was the greater idiot for sure. I wish we had better candidates, but I'm planning to vote for Kerry because as far as I can tell, he's the lesser of two idiots.

Goooooooooooooooo Popcorn and Muffin!!!

If only our pets could run for President. LOL!

[DJFyrewolf36]

Remus would make a bad president. Cattiude in office wouldn't work well methinks, he would make a great advisior though. I could just see this conversation:

Popcorn: As usual, people in other countries are upset with us. What do we do?
Remus: Bat them around and scratch them, and maybe take a nap
Muffin: I think some treats are in order too, for us, not for them
Remus: Hey, great idea!
Popcorn: I say we get some treats, take a nap and deal with this later.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by DJFyrewolf36
Remus would make a bad president. Cattiude in office wouldn't work well methinks, he would make a great advisior though. I could just see this conversation:

Popcorn: As usual, people in other countries are upset with us. What do we do?
Remus: Bat them around and scratch them, and maybe take a nap
Muffin: I think some treats are in order too, for us, not for them
Remus: Hey, great idea!
Popcorn: I say we get some treats, take a nap and deal with this later.

Hey, if we can have a bush in office, I think birds and cats would do ok too.

(Republicans.....don't take offense. I'm just joking. )

[DJFyrewolf36]

Hey, I'll confess Im a registered republican and I think Bush has done/said some realy stupid things. Proof that not all of us are one sided and one eyed

[caseysmom]

If remus is president we might invade japan for the sushi

[lizzielou742]

'You forgot Poland!' LOL! I loved the desperation Bush showed last night. That was a great example of it. Bush don't just miss the big picture, he ignores it.

[lizzielou742]

Originally posted by Logan
Obviously, if you are working, you aren't busy!

Yup, pretty much. LOL.

It's really not a good thing - I have nothing to do because our company isn't selling any products lately. Lack of sales means I'm probably getting laid off soon. Yet another reason to vote for Kerry! Maybe he can get some money back into the American economy (instead of spending it overseas), so people will start spending again, so they'll buy what my place of employment sells, so I can keep my job for now. Until I get a better one. Job creation! A novel idea for the Bush administration! They've had four years, and all they've done is waste the budget surplus that Clinton left, thrown us back into a deficit, and borrowed money from China that we'll have to pay back someday...

I don't understand what the Bush administration has done with the four years they had. I can't think of many positive things that they have done. No Child Left Behind? Didn't work. Healthcare? Costs rising. Minimum wage? It's pitifully low. Homeland security? Today it's a joke. The color-coded terror levels? Those are laughable. Captured Osama Bin Laden? Nope. Removed Saddam Hussein from power? Sure, and we plunged their country into a civil war! Now we're spending billions there, and soldiers are dying! And the reasons we gave these soldiers for going to war turned out to be wrong. And the Iraqi people are not yet free.

It makes me so sad to see what our country has become. I love America with all my heart, and I am ashamed knowing what the rest of the planet thinks of us right now. I can only hope Kerry gets elected, so he can bring our country back to a respected position in the world.

[mugsy]

1. I'm glad that Saddam is out of there and he DID have WMDs but while Congress "debated" the whole thing, Saddam loaded them up into semis and hauled them into Syria....right under our noses.

2. I thought that Bush looked like a bumbling idiot last night and seemed very uncomfortable and defensive.

3. I thought Kerry put on airs like I haven't seen in a LONG time and appeared that he felt he was far superior to everyone in the room (and probably everywhere else).

4. I think both candidates are blow hards and should be taken with a grain of salt, like any other politician. I don't believe anything any of them say because they never do as they say.

5. I don't know that there's much choice this year...lesser of 2 evils and I haven't decided yet who it is especially since Kerry seems to support the piece of trash legislation "No Child Left Behind."

[KYS]

posted by mugsy: I don't know that there's much choice this year...lesser of 2 evils and I haven't decided yet who>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have to agree, this is the first time I find myself
having a problem on whom to vote for.

[Soledad]

Kerry supported No Child Left Behind, as did many Democrats. But he supported it with a very different set of funding. The biggest problem with NCLB is the lack of funding. Bush wanted to look like he was fixing a typically Democratic issue without having to actually do the hard work and pay for it.

If you go to John Kerry's website on education you'll see his detailed plan on education and NCLB.

BUSH’S BROKEN PROMISES TO AMERICAN SCHOOLS

Under-Funded No Child Left Behind by $27 Billion. Bush’s last four budgets have cumulatively provided $27 billion less than what was pledged under NCLB. [President’s FY 2005 Budget, www.ed.gov; historical data at www.ed.gov]
Cut Funding for the School District He Praises Today. In today’s radio address, George Bush praises a school district in Asheville, North Carolina. Yet George Bush cut Title I funding for that district by more than $100,000. North Carolina has been one of the nation’s leaders in education reform since the era of Jim Hunt, North Carolna’s “Education Governor.” [Center for American Progress, 04/06/04]
Proposed Cutting 500,000 Children from Afterschool Programs. In his 2004 budget, George Bush proposed cutting afterschool funding by 40%, cutting off afterschool opportunities for 500,000 children. [www.afterschoolalliance.org; ed.gov, FY 2004 Budget data]
BUSH’S FAILURE TO REFORM HIGH SCHOOLS IN TEXAS AND ACROSS AMERICA

Bush and Paige’s “Texas Miracle” Exposed As a “Tall Tale.” Bush modeled No Child Left Behind after the “Texas Miracle” over which Rod Paige presided as superintendent of Houston schools. Yet, a Texas Education Agency probe into 16 Houston schools found widespread fraud and misreporting. “Houston as a whole reported a 1.5 percent annual dropout rate, though education experts estimate that the true percentage of students who quit before graduation is nearer 40 percent.” Other experts placed Houston’s dropout rate as high as 50 percent. [Harvard Civil Rights Project, 2004; New York Times, 7/26/2003; New York Times, 7/11/2003; 60 Minutes, 1/7/04]
One-Third of American Students Allowed To Drop-Out. The national graduation rate “is not the widely broadcast 85 percent,” but closer to 68 percent. In fact, about half of African-American Latino, and American Indian youths do not finish high school. [Education Week, 7/28/04; Harvard Civil Rights Project, 2/04]
JOHN KERRY HAS A REAL PLAN FOR AMERICA’S HIGH SCHOOLS

In May 2004, John Kerry announced a detailed agenda to strengthen American high school education. Yet again, President Bush has chosen to follow John Kerry’s lead on an issue Bush has failed to address for more than three years. John Kerry will:

Honor the Provisions of NCLB Requiring Accountability for Graduation Rates. John Kerry will make sure that NCLB requires accountability for graduation rates. He will require uniform and accurate data on graduation rates from all schools and districts and require disaggregation of graduation data so we know that all groups are achieving. [The Kerry-Edwards Plan For One Million More Americans To Graduate High School, http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/educ...raduation.html]
Support Development of a Rigorous High School Curriculum. John Kerry will fund a national initiative to align the academic standards (not specific content) in high school with the knowledge and skills required for college and work, and he will provide incentives for states to ensure that their curricula meet these broad standards.
Support Expanded Literacy Programs and Other Outreach to At-Risk Kids. For those students who struggle with basic skills, he will support expanded adolescent literacy programs and has also proposed an expansion in targeted college readiness programs like GEAR UP.
Break Up Troubled Large High Schools. John Kerry will support efforts to build smaller schools, break up troubled big high schools into component parts, and make schools places where students feel more at home.

[lizzielou742]

Thanks for posting that, Soledad. You beat me to it.