I am not really sure what there is to discuss. Folks who want guns get them. Those who do not, do not. Right , wrong, legal or illegal. People have the free will to get what they want. As far as the law goes....
I am not really sure what there is to discuss. Folks who want guns get them. Those who do not, do not. Right , wrong, legal or illegal. People have the free will to get what they want. As far as the law goes....
All depends on how your furniture is set up ... At the old house, my dresser was right next to the bed (old New England house, second floor room with sloping ceilings ...) and it was where my glasses rested at night - close enough so I could reach them without any effort!
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..France counts 1,193 cars torched on New Year's Eve
Associated Press – 54 mins ago.
PARIS (AP) — Hundreds of empty, parked cars go up in flames in France each New Year's Eve, set afire by young revelers, a much lamented tradition that remained intact this year with 1,193 vehicles burned, Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday.
His announcement was the first time in three years that such figures have been released. The conservative government of former President Nicolas Sarkozy had decided to stop publishing them in a bid to reduce the crime — and not play into the hands of car-torching youths who try to outdo each other.
France's current Socialist government decided otherwise, deeming total transparency the best method, and the rate of burned cars apparently remained steady. On Dec. 31, 2009, the last public figure available, 1,147 vehicles were burned.
Like many countries, France sees cars set on fire during the year for many reasons, including gangs hiding clues of their crimes and people making false insurance claims.
But car-torching took a new step in France when it became a way to mark the arrival of the New Year. The practice reportedly began in earnest among youths — often in poor neighborhoods — in the 1990s in the region around Strasbourg in eastern France.
It also became a voice of protest during the fiery unrest by despairing youths from housing projects that swept France in the fall of 2005. At the time, police counted 8,810 vehicles burned in less than three weeks.
Yet even then, cars were not burned in big cities like Paris, and that remained the case this New Year's Eve. Minister Valls said the Paris suburban region of Seine-Saint-Denis, where the 2005 unrest started, led the nation for torched cars, followed by two eastern regions around Strasbourg.
For some, the decision to tell the public how many cars have been burned on New Year's Eve is a mistake.
Bruno Beschizza, the national secretary for security matters in Sarkozy's UMP party, said on iTele TV that publishing the numbers motivates youths to commit such crimes. "We know that neighborhoods compete," he said. Gang rivalries center on who can torch the most cars, with claims made on social networks like Facebook and Twitter, he said.
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Don't they make BIC lighters in France?
WHO NEEDS A LIGHTER WITH THOUSANDS OF LIGHTS?
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Switzerland isn't "overrun" by gun violence either, though they require people to have firearms.
Statistically, gun violence is no worse now than it ever has been, and in reality the statistics have dropped. What's different is the fact that blood sells advertisement, and certain organizations have agendas to push.
While we're tossing around other countries' statistics, how about we get police in the US the same density as they have in European countries, and give them the same powers they have in Europe? Napoleanic law is far, far different from English common law and the US constitution.
The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.
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Today is the oldest you've ever been, and the youngest you'll ever be again.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Since we are all having such an advanced, intelligent conversation on gun control. Well, I have 3 guns. One I keep in my underwear drawer simply for kicks. The other one I use to shoot at the mailman if he does not deliver the mail on time, the third one is a rifle that I keep locked and loaded. Just in case I feel freaked out or threatened and wanna blow someones brains out.
The Viet Cong wore us down even though the USA had the superior fighting force. The Afghans wore down the Soviets, even though the Soviets had the superior fighting force.
What you arent taking into account is the ordinary armed citizen in the USA who arent the "Rambo" type. Rambo did not exist during the Revolutionary War, ordinary citizens did. The writers of the Second Amendment were ordinary citizens and they toppled the British control of the Americas.
An individual, as you term "Rambo" would do nothing against a tyrannical government, but as a group armed citizens can keep government in check if the will and means is there. You seem to want to take the means away.
Back in the 80s a Russian warship docked in Anchorage, a local was able to ask the captain how the Soviet Union would do in a land invasion of the USA. The captain wasnt concerned about the US military but as to how well armed the citizens are.
None of the countries you listed are Democratic Republics, so you are comparing apples to oranges. I would call all of the countries you named as overbearing governments with very little interest in privacy, England is a prime example of lack of individual privacy.
I think Ladys Human covered Switzerland,
The Rambo wannabe's arent the ones shooting up the "Gun Free Zones". Its the criminals, the unhinged, and the suicidal's. Like you point out below they dont need a fire arm.
So banning firearms does not keep someone intending to kill from killing. A man in China recently tried to kill a number of children with his car.
Final thought, where have the most recent, the last 20 years, mass shootings taken pace in the USA?
A tank in urban territory is extremely vulnerable.
An F-16 is useless when your own civilians are around.
Modern arms and tactics are essentially useless when the enemy is among your own citizens. Any serious, well planned uprising would render most of the military useless. There are literally thousands of nasty ways to render modern weapons moot. Just ask the Afghans, the VC, the fuzzies, the Basques, the IRA, and any number of ultimately successful insurgent groups.
If it's so useless, why does the US have a large military unit specifically tasked with supporting, training, and helping insurgents? Ask the governments in the Horn of Africa how useful modern weapons are against an internal uprising.......
Last edited by Lady's Human; 01-02-2013 at 08:36 AM. Reason: typo, never post prior to coffee
The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.
Very, and I mean very, few of the US military will disarm the USA populace by force.
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