Gun control discussion

[lizbud]

An armed populace ensures a Democratic Republic remains intact. Tyrants and dictators understand this, that is why they enjoy a disarmed populace. ES would rather be a subject then a free citizen.

Hear this all the time & wonder if people really believe what they are saying.A USA military could take down whole other Nations within days will be held in check by a group
of wannabe Rambos with their trusty "firearms". It's laughable. Evidently, repeating this phrase in every discussion about gun control, somehow makes them feel invincible.

[RICHARD]

Hear this all the time & wonder if people really believe what they are saying.A USA military could take down whole other Nations within days will be held in check by a group
of wannabe Rambos with their trusty "firearms". It's laughable. Evidently, repeating this phrase in every discussion about gun control, somehow makes them feel invincible.

Well, since we are talking about 'wannabe Rambos' let's talk about the "Stupid peaceniks", can we?

It's pretty insulting to be thought of as a 'wannabe Rambo' because I like to shoot a gun or want to own one.

That would be just like me saying that people who want green energy or drive hybrid cars are treehugging idiots.
Or that women who like cats are lonely and incapable of having a relationship with others, especially men.

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I haven't really read anything about people being Rambo or wanting to be Rambo - on this thread.

Of course, if I want to own a gun, bullets and want to target shoot on the weekends, that makes me a 'clear and present danger' to the people around me?

What an effing laugh.

I fear the idiots that drink and drive, talk on a cell phone, smoke cigarettes while driving -I fear people who smoke in bed, prepare my food or someone who decides that a nice biohazard in my water or air is the answer to THEIR problems?

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I do not think my guns are an extension of my penis, neither is my car, wallet or tax bracket.

I find the insinuation that I am a "rambo" because I like guns to be a direct reflection of the people who either do not like, trust or would not be able to handle a gun or the responsibilities of owning firearms.

If you don't like it or cannot handle it, suck it up.

My lifestyle choices shouldn't bother you - nor should my responsible ownership of any firearm.

[lizbud]

It's pretty insulting to be thought of as a 'wannabe Rambo' because I like to shoot a gun or want to own one.

Said nothing about indivdual gun owners .Said something about the"Rambos" who delude themselves into believing that arming themselves
will somehow protect us all from tyranical goverment excesses.

[blue]

Said nothing about individual gun owners .Said something about the"Rambos" who delude themselves into believing that arming themselves
will somehow protect us all from tyrannical government excesses.

When I mention being armed, Im not talking about the individual. The Second Amendment is not that simple.

[Lady's Human]

A tank in urban territory is extremely vulnerable.

An F-16 is useless when your own civilians are around.

Modern arms and tactics are essentially useless when the enemy is among your own citizens. Any serious, well planned uprising would render most of the military useless. There are literally thousands of nasty ways to render modern weapons moot. Just ask the Afghans, the VC, the fuzzies, the Basques, the IRA, and any number of ultimately successful insurgent groups.

If it's so useless, why does the US have a large military unit specifically tasked with supporting, training, and helping insurgents? Ask the governments in the Horn of Africa how useful modern weapons are against an internal uprising.......

[blue]

Very, and I mean very, few of the US military will disarm the USA populace by force.

[Lady's Human]

Very, and I mean very, few of the US military will disarm the USA populace by force.

I'd give the general response to an order like that, but this is a family board.

[chocolatepuppy]

Hear this all the time & wonder if people really believe what they are saying.A USA military could take down whole other Nations within days will be held in check by a group
of wannabe Rambos with their trusty "firearms". It's laughable. Evidently, repeating this phrase in every discussion about gun control, somehow makes them feel invincible.

No desire to be Rambo. Would just like to protect myself in my own home.

[pomtzu]

No desire to be Rambo. Would just like to protect myself in my own home.

But I sure as heck wouldn't keep my gun on the dresser like you do. If I had one it would be on the nightstand - it's much closer than the dresser and I wouldn't even have to get out of bed!

[mon]

I am not really sure what there is to discuss. Folks who want guns get them. Those who do not, do not. Right , wrong, legal or illegal. People have the free will to get what they want. As far as the law goes....

[Karen]

But I sure as heck wouldn't keep my gun on the dresser like you do. If I had one it would be on the nightstand - it's much closer than the dresser and I wouldn't even have to get out of bed!

All depends on how your furniture is set up ... At the old house, my dresser was right next to the bed (old New England house, second floor room with sloping ceilings ...) and it was where my glasses rested at night - close enough so I could reach them without any effort!

[RICHARD]

..France counts 1,193 cars torched on New Year's Eve

Associated Press – 54 mins ago.

PARIS (AP) — Hundreds of empty, parked cars go up in flames in France each New Year's Eve, set afire by young revelers, a much lamented tradition that remained intact this year with 1,193 vehicles burned, Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday.

His announcement was the first time in three years that such figures have been released. The conservative government of former President Nicolas Sarkozy had decided to stop publishing them in a bid to reduce the crime — and not play into the hands of car-torching youths who try to outdo each other.

France's current Socialist government decided otherwise, deeming total transparency the best method, and the rate of burned cars apparently remained steady. On Dec. 31, 2009, the last public figure available, 1,147 vehicles were burned.

Like many countries, France sees cars set on fire during the year for many reasons, including gangs hiding clues of their crimes and people making false insurance claims.

But car-torching took a new step in France when it became a way to mark the arrival of the New Year. The practice reportedly began in earnest among youths — often in poor neighborhoods — in the 1990s in the region around Strasbourg in eastern France.

It also became a voice of protest during the fiery unrest by despairing youths from housing projects that swept France in the fall of 2005. At the time, police counted 8,810 vehicles burned in less than three weeks.

Yet even then, cars were not burned in big cities like Paris, and that remained the case this New Year's Eve. Minister Valls said the Paris suburban region of Seine-Saint-Denis, where the 2005 unrest started, led the nation for torched cars, followed by two eastern regions around Strasbourg.

For some, the decision to tell the public how many cars have been burned on New Year's Eve is a mistake.

Bruno Beschizza, the national secretary for security matters in Sarkozy's UMP party, said on iTele TV that publishing the numbers motivates youths to commit such crimes. "We know that neighborhoods compete," he said. Gang rivalries center on who can torch the most cars, with claims made on social networks like Facebook and Twitter, he said.

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Don't they make BIC lighters in France?

WHO NEEDS A LIGHTER WITH THOUSANDS OF LIGHTS?

[pomtzu]

All depends on how your furniture is set up ... At the old house, my dresser was right next to the bed (old New England house, second floor room with sloping ceilings ...) and it was where my glasses rested at night - close enough so I could reach them without any effort!

What I said was meant only as a "tongue-in-cheek" statement. I figured we needed something to lighten the mood of this thread!

[chocolatepuppy]

But I sure as heck wouldn't keep my gun on the dresser like you do. If I had one it would be on the nightstand - it's much closer than the dresser and I wouldn't even have to get out of bed!

Ok Ellie! It's only three steps to my dresser. I can grab my gun and switch the safety off in the dark.

[lizbud]

No desire to be Rambo. Would just like to protect myself in my own home.

I don't disagree with you.