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  1. #1
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    Although I had my RB Pepper declawed because I too was very ignorant at the time, I'm againt declawing now. In fact, before I was able to adopt both Sunny or Cirrus, I had to sign papers promising that I'd never declaw them and they also had to be indoor cats only. Many rescue organizations have these rules.

    When I adopted Storm from the Humane Society, he also had to be an indoor cat but I don't recall them saying anything about declawing. With Sky I was shocked that he could be an indoor/outdoor cat and he was also from the Humane Society. They also said nothing about declawing. I guess some places are just more strict than others.

    I do believe in declawing if the cat needs it for medical reasons such as an ingrown or infected nail. If the choice was to euthenize or declaw the cat, then I'd have to go with declawing the cat even though both decisions are bad ones. At least the cats life would be spared. I too hope that some day declawing will become illegal in America.

    So I guess that the answer to your question Jen would be that I would let someone adopt a cat that was going to declaw them if and only if the cat would be euthenized if they didn't adopt it. Otherwise my answer would be no because declawing should only be done as a last resort.

    I've unfortunately had the experience of seeing my poor Pepper in pain after this procedure was done. He had to wear a splint on his right paw because he wouldn't walk on it. I know he was in pain. His personality also changed because he became much more shy around people. Here's a pic of Pepper with his splint.
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    I would have to say that I am totally against the procedure and would not adopt to anyone with such plans. Claw covers are an all right solution, removing a toe digit is not, IMO. I have never had a cat who was declawed, and the only way I ever would is if I fell for one in a shelter who was already mutilated.

    I feel the same way about cropping/docking, and about the venomoiding procedure in snakes. If you don't want the whole animal, look elsewhere!

    Edit: In Europe, isn't is also considered "cruel" to keep cats "locked up" in the house all the time?

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

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    I DO agree that a declawed cat is better than a dead one .... but I shudder to think about the pain they go through.

    I would NEVER allow an unnecessary surgery to be performed on any of my children, OR any pets which I may own in the future.

    However my over-riding thought on this VERY controversial thread is......


    "IF THERE IS ONE PERSON I WOULD ABSOLUTELY TRUST TO DO WHATEVER IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CAT - IT WOULD BE JEN!!!!!!"


    So whatever you ultimately decide, I support you Jen, knowing that you will make the decision only taking into account the best interests of the cat.

    BTW, luckiesforme mentioned tendonectomy. I had never heard of this procedure, but I spend some time of the web reading about it, and it does seem to be less invasive, and the recovery time seems to be quicker!


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    Pixel's claws!

    My dear little Pixel claws at everything ...we've tried everything, but she's stir crazy and a little bored, hence the arrival of a new brother in a week or so's time. Declawing was never an option.

    But, if it were the choice between declawing and being destroyed I know which I'd choose if I ran a shelter

    Mum to two little humans, a very vocal 14 year old Ragdoll, and a super energetic and snuggly rescue kitten.

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    "IF THERE IS ONE PERSON I WOULD ABSOLUTELY TRUST TO DO WHATEVER IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CAT - IT WOULD BE JEN!!!!!!"
    What a great statement, Ally Cat's Mom!!! Truer words were never spoken.

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    My first reaction is that I am against declawing! But JJJ3 , BO BO , SAM , and Precious all came to me declawed and they all seem to have no problems adjusting! And anything is preferable to Death!I am sure that Cats who cling to Life with all thier Might , would agree with this!
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    I know this is a VERY touchy subject, but there are other reasons for declawing a cat other than saving furniture.

    First, just let me say that I've declawed all 4 of my cats, and none of them experienced any pain or problems.....AT ALL. Now my reason.....I have a medical problem where I CANNOT get scratched and risk infection. If I do get an infection from bleeding, I will require surgery and if not caught in time.....death. So, what is better.....declawed, happy, healthy cats or a dead care giver?

    Declawing is not bad, it may not be the best thing to do, but it is not terrible. Terrible is all those unwanted kitties running around looking for food and a place to live and get love.
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    Originally posted by Catsnclay
    Declawing is not bad, it may not be the best thing to do, but it is not terrible. Terrible is all those unwanted kitties running around looking for food and a place to live and get love.
    I have to agree!
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