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**finn's mom** · 08-04-2005, 11:22 PM

I wouldn't want to do that with a lost pet of mine. Bruno is my soul, always will be, but, I think it would just be heartbreaking to see a dog that looked just like him. I think it would actually just make me miss Bruno even more. I don't like the idea of cloning, but, to each his own.

**CagneyDog** · 08-05-2005, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by Iilo
This dog was cloned for research.

This is exactly why I don't agree with it.

Originally posted by Iilo
o further our knowledge and perhaps make it so we can clone human stem cells. And what a great day it will be when scientists will be able to do research without ignorant people trying to prevent them from saving lives. .

I don't think animals should be at risk just for humans. I am completely against cloning for so many reasons and I think it is ridiculous to be testing it on animals. There are so many risks that come along with cloning, and in the future, if it does indeed become a "big thing" people are certainly going to try and abuse it. It is also so incredibely expensive and I think there are so many more productive things to spend money on.

I'm not ignorant, we all have our opionins. I'm entitled to have mine. This is hardly saving lives, infact, its the opposite. They are just contributing to the dog population that is entirely too large already.

And when we do make a so called "break through" and are able to easily clone humans it will cause even more problems. It could be an alternative to reproduction which would lead to big troubles.

**cute_pup** · 08-05-2005, 02:38 AM

Very wrong, they are playing with the natural creation for their own porposes...

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 08-05-2005, 06:49 AM

Cloning is dangerous and just plain wrong. Can I just point out that the article was in The Sun which isn't known over here for bothering too much with printing the truth!!! It is just as likely that someone made the whole thing up

**lbaker** · 08-05-2005, 07:17 AM

This science is NOT made up and they are not cloning "pets" for the sake of re-creating a loved and missed animal. No more so than stem cell research is to re-create humans. It's science, it's medical progress.. it's studies to find the basis.. therefore hopefully a preventative.. for heartbreaking disease and sickness. Genetic studies are no more voodoo than any other medical breakthrough (do you really need examples??) in the last several hundred years. Can you spell PENICILLIN?

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 08-05-2005, 09:00 AM

This science is NOT made up and they are not cloning "pets" for the sake of re-creating a loved and missed animal. No more so than stem cell research is to re-create humans. It's science, it's medical progress.. it's studies to find the basis.. therefore hopefully a preventative.. for heartbreaking disease and sickness. Genetic studies are no more voodoo than any other medical breakthrough (do you really need examples??) in the last several hundred years. Can you spell PENICILLIN?

Okay.....fair point. If it is purely for medical progress then I agree it is a good thing but can we trust those in control not to use it for other less well intentioned purposes.......

**Iilo** · 08-05-2005, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by CagneyDog
[B] there are so many more productive things to spend money on.

There are more productive things to spend money on than finding a cure for Parkinson's? I'm sorry. Perhaps you should've met my grandfather when he was alive.

They are just contributing to the dog population that is entirely too large already.

They made ONE puppy. It's not like that puppy doesn't have a home. It's not like that puppy isn't extremely well loved. I'm not saying there aren't dogs that need homes out there.... I'm saying what the #$%! does this have to do with it?

When I first heard the news soundbite on the 6-o-clock news, I was less than pleased. When I heard it wasn't that company in California who are trying to clone PETS for no scientific purpose, I almost bounced off the walls in joy.

CagneyDog,
I don't think, if you lived back then, you and Galileo would've gotten along.
Scientific progress? NO!!! How frightening and wrong!

**CagneyDog** · 08-05-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Iilo
There are more productive things to spend money on than finding a cure for Parkinson's? I'm sorry. Perhaps you should've met my grandfather when he was alive.

They made ONE puppy. It's not like that puppy doesn't have a home. It's not like that puppy isn't extremely well loved. I'm not saying there aren't dogs that need homes out there.... I'm saying what the #$%! does this have to do with it?

When I first heard the news soundbite on the 6-o-clock news, I was less than pleased. When I heard it wasn't that company in California who are trying to clone PETS for no scientific purpose, I almost bounced off the walls in joy.

CagneyDog,
I don't think, if you lived back then, you and Galileo would've gotten along.
Scientific progress? NO!!! How frightening and wrong!

One fricken puppy isnt going to give answers on a bunch of diseases. They are obviosely going to clone more things. they just spent 50 000 bucks on this puppy when they could of donated it to shelters ect. It is not even known for sure if they can get medical answers from cloning, and if they do, imagin all the money that would be put into it.

**Iilo** · 08-05-2005, 04:23 PM

I'm sorry, but I'm more than willing to spend $50,000 towards finding a cure for so many diseases. That's damned cheap.

And yes, there will be more money put towards FINDING CURES FOR TERMINAL ILLNESSES.

Oh. No. Wait, you know what, no... Let's not do that. Let's put all that money towards homeless animals instead. Yeah, we'll just leave all those people to suffer. We'll tell them that some mutts in a pound were more important than they are.

Also, I'd be willing to bet that the money that funded this project (I'm not sure where you're getting the $50,000 quote from, when I heard that number it was about how much money a woman paid to get her cat cloned for pet purpases) was under a GRANT.

Shelters can get their own grants. It's not that hard. MY shelter got a $10,000 grant. And we're not some big-time-we-have-our-own-training-facility-and-three-different-buildings.

**CagneyDog** · 08-05-2005, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Iilo
I'm sorry, but I'm more than willing to spend $50,000 towards finding a cure for so many diseases. That's damned cheap.

And yes, there will be more money put towards FINDING CURES FOR TERMINAL ILLNESSES.

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Shelters can get their own grants. It's not that hard. MY shelter got a $10,000 grant. And we're not some big-time-we-have-our-own-training-facility-and-three-different-buildings.

Not all shelters are like that. I know some that are going down the drain because lack of funding.

Were already finding cures for terminal illnesses. It hasn't actually be proven that cloning will definetely be the answer to everything. Im saying that we will spend all this money and then it may not actually work.

Oh. No. Wait, you know what, no... Let's not do that. Let's put all that money towards homeless animals instead. Yeah, we'll just leave all those people to suffer. We'll tell them that some mutts in a pound were more important than they are.

I think those "mutts" are just as important as humans.

**Vette** · 08-05-2005, 05:25 PM

All the starving people and animals in the world...
i think money can be more wisely spent then tinkering around with nature.

**Iilo** · 08-05-2005, 07:32 PM

To cure parkinsons, we need stem cells.

To get LOTS of stem cells, we need cloning.

And as much as I love dogs, I would have to put my a good quality life for my grandfather (may he rest in peace) over either of my dogs, despite how much I love them.

And ask anyone who knows me, I'm not the icey-cold, heartless bitch I come off as

**CagneyDog** · 08-05-2005, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Iilo
To cure parkinsons, we need stem cells.

To get LOTS of stem cells, we need cloning.

And as much as I love dogs, I would have to put my a good quality life for my grandfather (may he rest in peace) over either of my dogs, despite how much I love them.

And ask anyone who knows me, I'm not the icey-cold, heartless bitch I come off as

Shocking...Keep in mind this is a family site...

I guess we will just have different opionins on this subject.

**IRescue452** · 08-06-2005, 02:22 PM

People need to learn to let go. The dog is physically the sam and it end there. Why don't people rescue a dog in need when their beloved pet dies?

**Roxyluvsme13** · 08-06-2005, 02:53 PM

my animal shelter is overcrowded sometimes and they cant get a grant....i say i agree with irescue....go rescue an animal in need don't clone your dog....it is wrong and just let the poor animal rest in peace!!!!!!! if i had enogh money to do that i wouldnt i would donate it to saving animals not cloning them...