Some thoughts and apologies

[Cataholic]

Have you seen/thought about one of these for Misha? I just found out about them on Monday, and Jonah's arrives today! Since you are in the 'midwest'....it could be useful, and sure beats snowsuits, blankets, etc., stuffed into the carseat!


http://stores.kiwi-kid.com/catalog/B...20Blue%20T.jpg

[chrangharris]

I use something alot like that expect it doesn't have the face flap. I just toss a blanket over her face and then I also have a blanket to cover us up if I need to nurse. I love it because it does a wonderful job of keeping her warm!

[popcornbird]

Chris, I personally thought your thread was very respectful. I was shocked when I saw people accusing you of being an unloving parent, and it hurt ME when I read the words people used against you, because I felt it was so unjust and so unfair. Had someone used the same words for the 'other side' I would've felt the same way. Honestly, although I personally didn't get in a 'fight' with anyone, these threads have been hurting me so deeply for the past two days, to the point that I was shedding tears over it. I feel much better today, thankfully. I thought I was about to lose my mind. I just wish we wouldn't have such discussions on PT at all. I sometimes wish we didn't have a Dog House. I sometimes wish PT was JUST a pet board, because everything on PT is always wonderful until we get to these touchy subjects...subjects that both sides feel very, VERY strongly about, and it does end up in hurt feelings.

I think it was very honorable of you to say what you believe in respectfully. I do respect the views of others too, but there are some that could have said things nicely...some, that I felt, should've been ashamed of themselves for the things they said to you. Never be ashamed of what you believe in no matter what people said. Never be ashamed of your values. You are much better than many people on this planet. I personally feel you have nothing to apologize for, as you were not the one to start the hurt feelings...only the one to start the thread, but I feel its very honorable of you to post this, despite the fact that you were not the one to call anyone names. Thank you for doing your best to keep the peace at Pet Talk.

[micki76]

Originally posted by popcornbird
Never be ashamed of what you believe in no matter what people said. Never be ashamed of your values.

ITA PCB. No one should ever be made to feel that their opinions don't count, whether you agree with them or not.

I think we all get a little to heated here in DH way too often. I hope nothing I sad was taken as a personal attack. I'm trying so hard to be a kinder, gentler person. I still have the immediate reaction to blast someone when I want to make my voice heard, but I know that only makes me look immature and foolish. It's a learning process for me day to day.

I admire your post Chris. I admire anyone who's open to listen and can offer a sincere apology, whether it's necessary or not.

[jonza]

Thanks for your nice reply. That was extremely well said. Respect!

I hope that my harsh comments haven't been considered personal attacks. I certainly don't intend to be mean or spiteful, that is definitely not my aim, but, like many others, I have very strong views on these subjects!
In actual fact, you have nothing whatsoever to apologize for, and I am really sorry if you have been hurt by any of my comments. We should all have taken more notice of your original post, where you made it quite clear that you would delete it if things got nasty.

I agree with smokey the elder, a lot of these problems arise due to the format that we communicate in. I was already unsure with emails - are they a letter or a memo? How polite/precise should I be? And "sms'ing" is a format I'll never learn to communicate in!
In this case we are discussing serious topics with people we think we know and understand, but we may in actual fact be worlds apart. The sad thing is that I'm sure such problems wouldn't appear if we were talking face to face, it usually only takes a wink or a smile and the problem is solved.

I am used to discussions or debates where no holds are barred, and don't usually have any problems with people being hurt or feeling themselves attacked or taking offense. That some people will have differing opinions than my own is just something I have learnt to accept as the norm. But they are usually discussions with people who know what I stand for already, or come from a similar background, so hostility and animosity are very rare.

Anyway, as I said, I hope that you can accept that these were in no way personal attacks, and I'm sorry if they distressed you.


john