breeding delima

[wolfsoul]

Please don't breed. I am against all backyard breeders. Millions of dogs die a year all over the world. And there are ten STRAY dogs for every person on this earth. Imagine how many more dogs that aren't stray. We don't need any more.

Even if you do breed, you can't be proud to sy that you are a good breeder. A good breeder researches, has many breeding dogs, keeps pedigrees, takes special care that thier dogs are vet checked every six months, has their dogs' elbows, hips and eyes certified, does something with their dogs (eg conformation, agility, diving, flyball, obedience) and has the money to keep all of it up. Breeding is vry expensive, and their is absolutley no profit. But a good breeder doesn't care about profit, they only care about making the breed better.

[cali]

at everyone else

I say its your choice as long as the dog is healthy and fites their standerd, AND you have buyers lined up already and are prepared to keep any and all the pups if need be.

for everyone else did you ever stop to think that ALL responsable breeders had to start somewhere?? if you notice she does NOT have the dogs yet, she is asking whch breed would be better to breed, I am sure she is going to look for a GOOD pedigreed dog, and keep records etc.. also she said her MOM wants another dog to breed, and that she has experience. I plan to breed misty when she is older, woop de doo, and I dont plane to take her to the vet every 6 months we dont take our dogs to the vet once a year, nor do they get shots, big deal, its a different style. she asked a question and she gets a war, I am not saying she should breed i dont know her, but neither do you guys. this thread is WAY out of line.

[primabella]

at cali

How can you say it's out of line? We just answered what she asked for. I think your looking too much into it.

for everyone else did you ever stop to think that ALL responsable breeders had to start somewhere??

A responsible breeder knows completly, a hundred percent about the breed of dog and should usually only have one in mind. (maybe think about breeding another later on) Not two, and then ask which one should be bred.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

at cali too.

She asked a question, and she got our answers to it. If we just said "oh yeah go ahead and breed" to everyone who wanted to breed their dog, we woud have thousands upon thousands of MORE dogs ending up in shelters, and being put to sleep. Thats why I always say...LEAVE IT UP TO THE RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS!

[cali]

If you plan to breed when Misty is older she HAS to go to the vet and get regular check ups...that is if you want to be a RESPONSIBLE breeder

NOT true. I know plenty of VERY responsible breeders who dont take there dogs for regulare check-ups or shots, of coarse she will be health checked and all that, I am not stupid. its called NATURAL REARING. and some of the healthiest dogs are raised this way.

primebella, maybe so, but I like to give people a fair chance, I know what it is like to be judged so quickly, one site I was framed a girl hated me so she sent herself a nasty e-mail saying it was from me, I was kicked off the board and treated like dirt I was called all sorts of things, the whole time I did not have any idea why I was getting nasy PMs and e-mails, then banned from the board, I found out later what happend. after that, I know what is liek to be judged and i give everyone a fair chance.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

I never said you were stupid. So, let me get this staight..you know responsible breeders who dont even get their dogs the proper health care or shots??

[cali]

yes like I said natural rearing, and I know 3 of them, a sheltie breeder, a great dane breeder, and an ibizen(sp?) hound breeder. obvously not here(this board) but natural rearing is gaining popularity, even happys breeder is becoming a natural rearer.

[primabella]

primebella, maybe so, but I like to give people a fair chance, I know what it is like to be judged so quickly, one site I was framed a girl hated me so she sent herself a nasty e-mail saying it was from me, I was kicked off the board and treated like dirt I was called all sorts of things, the whole time I did not have any idea why I was getting nasy PMs and e-mails, then banned from the board, I found out later what happend. after that, I know what is liek to be judged and i give everyone a fair chance. [/B]

I never said to not give anyone a fair chance. I just don't see the logic in what she wants to do. And I have been judged by tons of people and I hate it. People are shallow, what do you want? I'm sorry about what happened to you, but I've been through it to. However, I think this is different. She comes here, tells us nothing about how good of a breeder she would be, tells us two breeds her and her mother like and ask which ones she should breed. That sounds pretty darn irresponsible to me.

NOT true. I know plenty of VERY responsible breeders who dont take there dogs for regulare check-ups or shots

Whether you are a breeder or not, I don't believe any responsible pet owner should let their dog go without regular check-ups or shots.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Right. All dogs need their shots and regular check ups, ESSPECIALLY if you plan to breed.

[Kfamr]

AT CALI



She asked for our opinions/suggestions, we gave them to her. I highly doubt at the age of 14 she his resposible/educated enough to breed an animal responsibly.

[micki76]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
I never said you were stupid. So, let me get this staight..you know responsible breeders who dont even get their dogs the proper health care or shots??

That's so incredibly STUPID!!!! Should human babies never see the Dr or get their vaccinations? NO! Animal care is no different.

Why do people continue to be so irresponsible? I'll never understand. Maybe it's best that I don't try. I only end up frustrated.

Only responsible, breeders with enough knowleedge to do so, should. Period. End of story. And I personally think there should even be some regulation for professional breeders, though I know that won't ever happen.

[cali]

apperently people here are against holistics and all for allopathy. I go the holistic way, they are NOT vaccinated and i dont plane on ever doing so. my dogs are some of the healthiest around now. before we switched our dogs to holistic they were in terrable condition, they had their shots, and were fed a premium food, and went to the vet regularly, mainly cuz they needed to, happy got really sick when she was a pup after her second set of shots, we almost lost her, she was throwing up all the time, and had to be fed water through a tube, turned out to be vaccinosis(sp?) and we put off her spay, until she was better, we started doing research, and tried holistic methods, no more shots for any of the dogs, raw food, and guess what, all of a sudden the dogs were healthy, since then(3 years ago) we have never needed a vet, everyone is amazed a the difference. I dont believe in vaccinating, get over it. just because YOU dont agree with it does not make me irrisponsable.

[Kfamr]

What if your dogs come in contact with a sick dog and your dog catches whatever that dog had. Would you not take it to the vet and get shots to make it better?

[cali]

Should human babies never see the Dr or get their vaccinations? NO! Animal care is no different

lol believe is ot not but I do know someone who does the same with there baby lol

[GoldenRetrLuver]

That doesnt make any sence. You had your dogs vet cared, fed them good quailty food, and they all became incredibly sick. We have our own opinins also. So, YOU get over it.