corn cob

[luckies4me]

Thank you WolfChan! I've told her this a million times but she just pokes fun at it. You did see her signature right? The one about how she has 30 50 pounds of Ethoxyquin in her house? She obviously doesn't care so....

[Logan]

It was suggested by our pet store, when we got our birds, that we use the corn cob litter at the bottom of their cages. Then, when I started reading more about birds, it was strongly suggested that we NOT use it, as a bird can get it caught in their crop. So, I use plain old newspaper.

With the hamster, we always used aspen shavings, then discoved the Carefresh, which we liked much better. I think the key to any "litter" is frequent changes. They all have a tendency to get stinky and moldy if they aren't changed often enough.

Logan

[luckies4me]

This is so true!

"With the hamster, we always used aspen shavings, then discoved the Carefresh, which we liked much better. I think the key to any "litter" is frequent changes. They all have a tendency to get stinky and moldy if they aren't changed often enough. "

[Desert Arabian]

Originally posted by luckies4me
Thank you WolfChan! I've told her this a million times but she just pokes fun at it. You did see her signature right? The one about how she has 30 50 pounds of Ethoxyquin in her house? She obviously doesn't care so....

DARN IT! How did you discover my secret? MAN! I thought it was so well hidden. Yes, yes...it is true I don't care for my animals at all. That's why I have my friend take them to the vet once a year for check-ups, or more if they become ill. I also put them in the smallest cage I could find (32"lx20"wx67"h). I made sure they have no toys either, I mean what the heck, its a waste of money. When I left for camp for six weeks I told my mom to never speak of them in her letters and don't bring them to the camp on the weekends to visit me. And when it comes to the cat, I make sure mom never gives him his Hearguard or Frontline. When he wants to go outside, I open up the door and let him out. We haven't scooped out his litter box in the past 2 months, oh well, his feces are rather small. The humane society wanted to put a chip in him, but we said "No, if we loose him, we'll just get another cat." I think the last time he went to the vet was when his other owners owned him- not to sure on that one. I do not care what happens to them, after all they are only animals. (sarcastic story)

(This is the true story) Ok, now I am going to be like you and brag about all the items I have recently bought my rats. Let's see, in the past two weeks I have spent over $103 with my own money. Mom has spent around $30-$40 or so. I just spend three hours cleaning both cages last night, scrubbin 'em real good. If I get a good report card this summer, mom is going to get me a brand spanking new PWC cage (can't remember the size, it is over 48").
I am also currently building them a run which is about 2 feet high and 5 feet long, so they can safely play in the grass this summer. When I go to summer camp, I am going to make sure mom sends me pictures weekly of the rats, and brings them up there to visit me, like she did last year. We are going up to the cottage next weekend, guess who's comming along- like always, they come with me everywhere. When the weather gets nice I need to put together their Ware rabbit hutch for them. Yup, I do care for my rats.

All I have to say to you Luckies is, don't you ever make another statment like that again towards me. Haven't you noticed I have never listened to your advice, and never will. For a good reason. I care for my rats more than I do myself, and for someone like you to make a comment "she doesn't care" makes me BEYOND angry. It's a good thing I don't make it to the west coast that much!!!!



"Please somone help us, ma doesn't care for us, we are so abused! Can't you tell!!- Peanut (top), Fred and Nugget (bottom)
Mr. Pudgy (Oscar) is sleeping in the Comfy Cube and that is why it is sagging so low. Hehehehehehe. Fatty! hehehehehe.

[popcornbird]

From what I know, rats that eat Kaytee live 2-3 years. Rats that eat other foods live the same lifespan. If Kaytee was so bad wouldn't they die far before their already short lifespan?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I believe. I do not believe Ethoxyquin is as dangerous as some people say. My vet is known to be one of the best avian vets in the area. I asked him about Kaytee and ethoxyquin, and he said it has never been proven to cause any harm or threat to birds (don't know about rats). He said its just an assumption and that his own birds eat Kaytee seeds and Zupreem pellets. I also asked breeders and people who have been raising birds for decades on the tiel forum I'm on, and they said that in the decades they've had their birds, not once have they have a problem with ethoxyquin, and their tiels lived happy, healthy longs lives of 25-35 years.

Again, I don't know about rats, but I've always heard of Kaytee to be a good brand until I met Luckies4me.

Ps. Logan, I'm glad you found out that litters are bad for birds early. Birds do not need any litter in their cage at all, nor should they be there. The best thing to use is black and white newpaper (colored can be toxic) or paper towel. Some people use nothing and just wash the cage tray everyday, but I go with the newspaper.

[Desert Arabian]

Bowing down at your feet PCB. Finally, someone else who is smart and believes the same thing about Kaytee.

DUH- if it was killing millions of pets, they'd get sued in 2 seconds and be out of business. Are they, NO!

[Nomilynn]

I don't understand why anyone would assume that YLL did not care for her pets. That's stupid! Her animals are her main concern, and that's pretty obvious.

[Desert Arabian]

Oh yea, I forgot to mention to you WolfChan, I mix lab blocks in with their Kaytee. They love em!

P.S. Thanks Nomilynn

[luckies4me]

I never said she didn't care about her pets, I said she didn't care about feeding them Ethoxyquin, if she mistook that post oh well. Oh yes, YLL I would LOVE to see you come here, how old are you again? 15 hahahah that's pretty funny. Oh wait, here I go again, listen up everyone, YLL doesn't ever care for her animals, ever! Now what are you going to do? Come here and beat me? hehe



PCB, why do you always bring up birds? This is about rats. If you want to feed that food go right ahead, no ones stopping you. I do believe I have mentioned several times that we fed our tiels Kaytee while I was younger did I not?

[Desert Arabian]

Here is a picture of silly Mr. Pudgy/Oscar taking his Yogies into the corn cob box. Not like he needs anymore treats!

[luckies4me]

Yes you can get mad if you want, I don't care, but if I think a rat is cute I will comment. Afterall, I can dislike the owner and like the pets so.....HE IS HUGE! That's all I am going to say.

[Desert Arabian]

And here is Little Pea snatching Oscars left-behind treats from the cob box.

[luckies4me]

How old is she?? She looks older....cute pic though.

[Desert Arabian]

She was born August 24, 2001. She is a "senior rattie".

[luckies4me]

She came from the petstore right? That's a good age for a pet store ratty! You should be happy! My friend just lost her petstore ratty who was 2 1/2 years old.