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    An American Supporter,

    Wow. So I guess that freedom of speech thing is just when it's convenient for everyone else. Not so much a freedom anymore. Maybe we should call it "a certain degree of freedom of speech because too much is not convenient for us."

    So, if someone disagrees with where their country is going, they should just chicken out and move away? That doesn't make sense. And it doesn't sound very patriotic to me.

    I guess the brave thing to do would be to stay and try to affect some sort of change with more than just my vote. But I guess it would be easier to sit on my butt and wave a flag.

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    American Dissenter,

    Please note that there is a certain responsibility that comes with freedom of speech. Also, freedom of speech becomes null and void when it creates unrest, then it becomes a crime. To a degree the protesting is causing unrest, therefore, responsible people should consider what they say before they say it. And, yes, in this American Supporter's humble opinion, people who feel that strongly against the American government should leave because there are plenty of people in oppressed countries who would love to take your place and stand proudly on the side of the U.S. so that they may have the freedoms that so many dissenters take for granted.

    Yours in support of America,

    the American Supporter (EEWWW that was really redundant! )


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    Dear American Supporter,

    Your letter is as un-American and un-constitutional as it can get. The American constitution guarantees the freedom of speech to any American, whether it is appreciated by people like you or not. All protesters have the right to voice their opinions according to the constitution, and if you don't like it, YOU can shut up, because as an American, you have no right to stop other Americans having their voices heard. You have your voice heard, they have their's. Its a fair square. You have no right, as an American, to tell other Americans to leave if they don't like the government's policies. No where in the US constitution does it state that you should leave if you are not satisfied with the government's actions. Just because we do not condone what our government is doing, that doesn't make us any less American than you. You letter was as un-American as it can get, so please go back and read the constitution and the Bill of Rights, and learn to be as American as you claim to be.

    Sincerely,
    A true American that stands for justice.
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    TATSFJ,

    I teach the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, so, I am familiar with them. I stand with the Federalists who believed that the Constitution should be interpreted not read literally. Let's see, now I don't have the right of free speech? I also have the right to my opinion, which I expressed and was not rude when I did it. Perhaps you should work on your argument.

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    Originally posted by popcornbird
    As I said, those who do wrong will always find way to justify their actions.
    Saddam, anyone????? You feel we're doing wrong? Bush doesn't murder and mame his own people just to have something to blame on Saddam. Bush doesn't rape women, because their fathers, husbands and brothers won't fight for him. Americans are not dressing as Iraqi's and pretending to surrender and then ambushing them.

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    Originally posted by popcornbird
    We killed half a million innocent children in Iraq by implying sanctions on those poor people, but ofcourse Saddam did that, so we are saving them from it now.

    And remember, I NEVER said Saddam hasn't committed crimes against his people. He HAS, and he is a devil, but we are a greater cause of suffering for the Iraqi people.

    Here comes another justification!!!!
    Firstly the sanctions were imposed against the country because of Saddams actions. We didn't do it for fun. Not a justification, simply the truth.

    You say we're the greater cause for suffering? Once he's out, his people will have freedoms and liberties they don't have now. There will be no more sanctions and no more atrocities commited angainst his people by him and his evil government.

    With your line of thinking, Hitler would not have been deposed. There were Germans who agreed with him and wanted him in power. There were Germans who did not. I think it's and atrocity to leave an EVIL dictator in power. If I were living under ANY evil dictatorship, I would welcome the opportunity to have my freedom, to live fearlessly, to be able feed my family. Not a justification, simply the truth.

    I hope the Iraqi people enjoy the freedoms they'll have. I also hope the Americans can have some peace of mind that we won't be shopping or going to work or living our lives and be attacked by Saddam's chemical weapons, which I believe he has, after all they're certainly his style.

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    I am sure if I am wrong I will be corrected on the
    two counts below:

    Sadaam through the UN sanctions was allowed
    to buy food and medicine for his people with Iraqi oil.
    But he inriched himself while his
    people starved.

    Back in the Gulf War, I also believe Pres. Bush did
    want to finish the job, but because of
    UN pressure we left. (this is why the kurds and the Sheit
    muslims lost trust in us during the uprising 12 years back)
    Thus the UN sanctions and also the UN resolutions
    that Sadaam was not to have weapons of mass destruction
    etc. was put in place.
    If the UN had than made sure that Sadaam followed
    the resolutions, then the US/Britian would not be
    in Iraq today?


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    Originally posted by cheetahgirlWho supported Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war? Saddam did not suffer because of sanctions. The children and people did. It didn't bother Saddam. It hurt the people. It killed half a million children and also women and adults. All those children died because of your country.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;How did our country kill these children?
    Your country killed more civilians that any country on this planet.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do you believe this?
    America invaded tons of countries. Not one earned freedom.
    Kuwait, France, Germany, and Japan are not free nations?
    You are colonizing the country, which you have no right to do.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;France and Germany were colonizing countries. They stopped. The US has changed a lot too. Please name one colony the US has acquired in the last fifteen years.
    They won't because you are not giving them freedom. You are taking over their country and trying to steal the middle east and world. Syria and Iran will be next. Then us and Saudi Arabia.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Is Kuwait part of Iraq?


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    we need peace......



    just let the boys in BDU (battle dress uniforms) let some steam off
    and then we'll get down to the thought of peace


    america, still kicking ass and taking names!!!! coming to a country near you!!!! HOORAH




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    Cheetahgirl, get a grip on the reality thing hon. You have NO clue what the U.S. is going to do after this is over. You just hate us so much that you automatically decide the worst (in your opinion). I'm trying to think here, did we take over and colonize Kuwait? No. Bosnia? No Germany? No. Japan? No South Korea? No France? No. You need to get over your severe case of paranoia. Next time Pakistan needs aid, how about if we just leave you alone.


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    Jonza, Soledad, Petsbestern, Popcornbird and Cheetahgirl, You live in a Fantasy World of Hate and Discontent rather than a World of Love and Peace which the Americans are trying to restore, time to wake up.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy


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    Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
    Jonza, Soledad, Petsbestern, Popcornbird and Cheetahgirl, You live in a Fantasy World of Hate and Discontent rather than a World of Love and Peace which the Americans are trying to restore, time to wake up.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy


    the world of hate must be a terrible place to be,
    tasting that bile rising from your gut, so discontent in your
    own little world that you have to strike out at the biggest
    thing you see, just to make yourself feel better.....
    and the constant repetition of long past facts and figures...

    oh, did i mention the fact that they may just be a tad ticked off that they are on the losing side of the war???

    just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the
    US armed forces, when they come to take over your country

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    the world of hate must be a terrible place to be,
    tasting that bile rising from your gut, so discontent in your
    own little world that you have to strike out at the biggest
    thing you see, just to make yourself feel better.....
    and the constant repetition of long past facts and figures...

    oh, did i mention the fact that they may just be a tad ticked off that they are on the losing side of the war???

    just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the
    US armed forces, when they come to take over your country

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
    Nah, Richard, we won't take over ALL their countries. I mean who wants the useless ones with no oil?

    Oh, wait. I forgot, we're taking over the WORLD!!!!

    Get a grip on reality people. Paranoia.

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    just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the US armed forces, when they come to take over your country
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Richard, please do not contribute to the hate and discontent.

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul

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    Originally posted by Paul
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Richard, please do not contribute to the hate and discontent.

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul

    sorry,


    patriotic fervor took over my mind.



    i can still post about bile???????
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