Canadians and the War

[cali]

I personanally am EXTREMLY proud to be canadian and very glad we are not suppoting the war, I certainly dont, and never will but I have lot sof friends in the US nothing against any of you but I for one will NEVER support the war

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by cali
I personanally am EXTREMLY proud to be canadian and very glad we are not suppoting the war, I certainly dont, and never will but I have lot sof friends in the US nothing against any of you but I for one will NEVER support the war

alrighty...now take back lee and dion.....please?!?!?!

and what's the deal with canadian football-why are the endzones 20 yards long??????????

[RockyRoad]

I'll keep silent on this 'supporting war' thing...

I'm proud of our Canadian neighbors! I have met many Canadian friends on here, and you are all as friendly as can be! My teacher is Canadian as well, and he's really nice!

[mugsy]

I'm not sure that it really matters anymore if we support the war or not since we are already in it. At this point, I look forward to the day that Iraq is no longer under the thumb of Saddam and has in place its own democratic government. It also doesn't matter if most of the world is behind us or not, we're there now. Just a thought.

I think everyone needs to stand behind what they believe in though.

Richard, I don't think they're biting on the return of Pamela and Celione....what a bummer! lol

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by mugsy


Richard, I don't think they're biting on the return of Pamela and Celione....what a bummer! lol

probably figgered it they ignore it, we'll forget.....i don't think so..

[oodlesofpoodles]

Whether we agree or not agree with war, it doesnt matter now as we are there. But the main reason that we are there goes back to 9/11. It wasnt just ameicans killed, there people from countries all over the world working at the World Trade Centers. But the one thing that I don't understand is when another country is in trouble who do they call upon. and who goes and helps out. Then when we need help and call upon the very same countries that we have helped out. Where are they. nowhere to be found. But thats all water under the bridge. The main thing is whether we agree or not is to keep all those over there doing their job to protect our nation and our freedom in our hearts and prayers. They didn't chose to go. they went because its their job. And I can see why Canada doesnt want Pam back. I dont think any country would want her.

[ScantyNebula]

I think that its kinda bizarre that Cretien didn't send Canadian troops to support the US .. but I agree that if the UN gives no thumbs up, then why should we fight in a war? US has enough power to tackle Iraq on their own ...even if they did have Canadian troops it wouldn't make much of a difference.

[Tanya&Fritz]

Originally posted by mugsy
Richard, I don't think they're biting on the return of Pamela and Celione....what a bummer! lol

OK, we'll make you a deal. We'll take Celine Dion back as long as we get Alanis Morissette back too. As for Pamela, sorry, there's just no convincing me

[sammi]

Originally posted by popcornbird
I believe the whole world helped the US after 9-11 and everyone was there for her. It is different this time, because people see no legal reason to go for war.

What do you consider being "legal"???

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Tanya&Fritz
OK, we'll make you a deal. We'll take Celine Dion back as long as we get Alanis Morissette back too. As for Pamela, sorry, there's just no convincing me

PLEASE?????
we'll keep peter jennings and alex trebeck!!!!

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by sammi
What do you consider being "legal"???

stuffing people into wood chippers, feet first to hear them scream, head first so they don't.

using people as human shields

taking Iraqi olympians that lose a game , drag them on their backs until their skin bleeds, drag them over sand to embed the grains in those wounds and lastly making them submerge themselves in human waste, to infect those wounds.

raping women, taking pics and sending them to their families.

that's what's 'legal' in Iraq under saddam and his sons.
it's simply amazing how people, who stand for the rights of
people at any other time, can be so uninformed about the atrocities that have been perpetrated on a country like Iraq.

they'll gladly take up a cause against their country for trying to help those people and in the same breath damn the poor
citizens in Iraq to live in the shadow of evil.

no, our war is not legal, it's justified.

[Tanya&Fritz]

Originally posted by popcornbird
You can go to h*** for stating all those lies Richard. What a LIAR!

Popcornbird, you know I've supported you in the past, but I truly believe that these are not lies. There is just too much proof about some of the stuff that Saddam has done. He had one meeting with all of his generals and the next meeting he had with them there were 4 missing. Where do you think they went? He had them shot because they didn't agree with his strategies. He had his own brother-in-law killed Saddam is a very sick man and he needs to be stopped.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by popcornbird
You can go to h*** for stating all those lies Richard. What a LIAR!

And sammi, I said PEOPLE do not consider it legal, if you can't understand that plain simple sentence. You already know why people do not approve of this war. I don't want to argue. I don't come to this dog house forum much, so I'm not going to argue about something I'm going to miss anyways by not coming to this forum. I stick around the pet/general area.

sweetie,

i'm going to hell anyway.

i don't need your stamp on my passport.

as far as the olympians, check out the sports illustrated site (SI.com) and read the story, check out some of the other news
outlets and stories from people who have fled the regime.
i always figured that you may show some kind of maturity and not resort to calling people liars, but hey i'm wrong for supporting
the war, so i'm probably wrong about maturity too.

take flight little bird, the cage door is open.

[RICHARD]

FROM THE AMNESTY INTL. SITE

Political detainees in Iraq are subjected to the most brutal forms of torture. The bodies of many of those executed had evident signs of torture, including the gouging out of the eyes, when returned to their families. The most common methods of physical torture include electric shocks to various parts of the body, pulling out of fingernails, long periods of suspension by the limbs, beating with cables, falaqa (beating on the soles of the feet), cigarette burns on various parts of the body, and piercing of hands with an electric drill. Psychological torture includes threats of bringing in a female relative of the detainee, especially the wife or the mother, and raping her in front of the detainee, threats of arresting and harming other members of the family, mock executions and being kept in solitary confinement for long periods of time.

N.(20), a Kurdish businessman from Baghdad, married with children, was arrested in December 1996 outside his house by plainclothes security men. Initially his family did not know about his whereabouts and started going from one police station to another enquiring about him. Then through friends they found out that he was being held in the headquarters of the General Security Directorate in Baghdad. The family was not allowed to visit him. Eleven months later in November 1997 the family were told by the authorities that he had been executed and that they should go and collect his body. His body reportedly bore evident signs of torture. His eyes were gauged out and were filled with paper, and his right wrist and left leg were broken. The family was not given any reason for his arrest and subsequent execution. However, they suspected that he was executed because of his friendship with a retired army general who had links with the Iraqi opposition outside the country and who was arrested just before N.'s arrest and was also executed.

Soon after the attempted assassination of 'Uday Saddam Hussain in December 1996 and the mass arrests that ensued, Salah Mahdi, a 35-year-old traffic warden in al-Mansur married with three children, was arrested. He was accused of neglect because he did not notice the car the assailants used. He was held in the Special Security building and was severely tortured. He died reportedly as a result of torture in around June 1997. His family were told that he had died but the body was never returned to them for burial despite their repeated requests and to date his burial place reportedly remains unknown to the family.

[mugsy]

Popcornbird, you need to take a trip on the reality train hon, there is nothing that Richard stated that is a lie. It has all been reported and confirmed. The people in plastic shredders is all reported by a female Iraqi refugee.