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    I am not someone who would ever turn to Nancy and I would never, ever base any decision on what she says - although I know many of you feel very differently. That out of the way, I'm wondering if what Jennie said earlier about Ally having a mental disorder is true. I think this is possible, and if it is then she is in constant mental anguish - just as you see with people who are, let's say, schizophrenic. I've had a couple of cats who have shown all the symptoms of a mental disorder and they were never content for more than brief periods and certainly never happy. You have taken on the responsibilities of Ally's owner, I'm afraid, Jennie, and you may have to be the one to most truly put Ally out of her constant misery.

    Two things. I have had good luck with Prozac, it's made a huge difference to my Taranis and she enjoys her life much more now, and she's not at all "out of it". (She's not one of the ones I mentioned above.) If you want one more really strong effort to get a handle on this, go to the vet and get her on Prozac. Clomicalm will dope her up, Prozac will rewire her to some degree.

    The other is this. Have you ever seen Ally looking content? Does she ever lie about looking relaxed? Does she ever play? Is there anything in her life now that would make her want to go on living, if she was able to think that way?

    Like everyone else here, I would hate to be in your shoes.

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    I would not base a decision on one person's reading, any more than I would have surgery on one doc's recomendation.

    That said, I am still hoping for Ally to find a home where she can be an only cat. She was pretty happy in her original home until the second cat was introduced, and it all went downhill from there.

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    I like Nancy... I think she is very good.. BUT I just wanted to add...

    I had a reading from her about one of my "vicious kitties"... I was told the same thing, never going to change, evil, no way she will change, put her to sleep.
    I opted not too, and within 3 months of the reading, well, my cat is happy, healthy and COMPLETELY the sweetest cat on the planet. While I do believe that Nancy has great insight into animals AND their feelings, I just want to point out, that sometimes, they can be wrong.... In this case, she was....


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    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
    This is directly from Nancy:
    .......

    i remember ally as being nasty nasty nasty. she is one of the nastiest cats i have ever read. she feels exactly the same and no better.

    she has a very deep rooted anger. i am not sure if she came this way into the world (it feels like she has) or if this has developed over time(i feel she came this way).

    .......
    i feel as though she hates everyone. an evil hatred. as i told you before i would not have this cat in my house. she is poison to your other animals and to you and the energy in the house.

    .... this is a cat that would be better off put to sleep.

    .......
    she is not adoptable. she is angry, unhappy and vicious. she is not workable.

    .
    I am going back to the text.
    And I read the words "nasty" "evil hatred" and "vicious". They are attributed to Ally and it is said and repeated that the author feels she came in the world this way.

    How many of you would believe that a baby - whether cats or humans- came in the world evil and vicious?
    Certainly not me.
    And certainly noone with a Christian belief as Jesus said that the children were innocent.

    To go away from this belief means going in the directions of "Rosemary's baby".

    I have read many posts here in which whenever someone posted news out of a newspaper or magazine that a dog was aggressive and hurting people, everyone complained about the irresponsible owners. In these cases I always agreed because I am convinced that while some dogs may be just too strong for their own good, untrained and abused, they were born as little innocent puppies.

    Why should we go away from this firm belief in the case of Ally.

    Thankyou Chris for collecting all the early posts. I too remember very well that Ally started the aggressive behavior after Connor came in. There are kitties- we all know that- who need to be an only cat and I am convinced Ally would be one of them. She started to get traumatized then and now she is completely mixed up- that is obvious for me.

    I know that for her to survive I saint would have to step in (and a single saint as far as other cats are concerned)- but I still will not give up hope for her.

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    After reading the above words again, I see that Nancy said that Ally's hatred is evil, she didn't say that Ally is evil. Coming in to the world that way, uh, not bloody likely unless she has a disease or disorder of some type and another vet opinion would be in good order.
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    Just sent you a PM Jenn.
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    After reading that post again of nancy's reading, just makes my blood boil to be honest,saying "she is poison to your other animals and to you and the energy in the house",wow that cat sure is one powerful little kitty, need i say anymore,Grrr...is all i can say.

    let us hope we here some good news from the vet, I don't want her to be sick either ,but if it explains her behaviour and can be helped then i guess it would be a blessing in disguise.
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    Was going to post this tomorrow

    Sigh... this was not a happy easter. I decided that since I was going up to my mom and dad I would drive over to the vet tech's house first, since I wasn't getting any answers from her via phone, and it was still early in the day.

    I talked to Amanda, the girl who took Ally in, and, long story short, she had Ally PTS about 2 weeks ago. I knew something was going on, and I kinda had a feeling it wasn't good.

    She assured me she tried everything with her, and even though she was bitten by her (I warned her...), she still had held out hope that something would change. She said she had never encountered a cat quite like Ally, being so aggressive and attacking unprovoked, and she was as scared of her as I had been.

    We talked for at least 2hrs, we were both in tears, because we both wanted what was best for Ally, and neither of us wanted to have her PTS. I feel like I let her down. I just don't know what else I could have done, except ship her to someone else (another PT'er maybe??) who wanted to care for her. I doubt anyone would have wanted that job. Maybe Barbara or Carole, I dunno. Maybe I should have asked them if they wanted to take her, or if anyone would have taken her. I really don't think that would have been the answer though. I don't think it would have done any good for Ally.

    Amanda did have her cremated, and she did give me her ashes. She said she thought I'd want to give her a proper burial. So, now she is buried up at my mom and dad's farm, next to our family pets who passed away. It's a nice spot, with rose bushes and currant bushes and gooseberry bushes growing. It's been so soggy and wet here, I didn't have to worry about the digging her grave.

    I've been trying to keep the thought in my heart that she is now at peace. No more being afraid of people and attacking them. No more wondering where her owner is. She is finally resting. I just hope that's true, for her sake.

    I'm sorry Ally. I hope you'll forgive me for failing you, because that's how I really feel no matter what.

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    Oh Jenn, you were never a failure. You tried longer than many would have - considering how Ally was.

    She's at peace now; that's what is important. One day you will see her again.

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    Oh, Jenn....LES.

    Sweetie...it seems clearer now more than ever that poor Ally was not happy, and never would be - that something tortured her.

    Even as an only cat in a caring home with a vet tech...and it's not like Amanda gave up after two days.

    Dear, dear Jenn...I hope that some day you will realize how much you did for that girl, more and so much more than anyone ever did or ever could have done.

    There was nothing more you could have done...nothing more.

    Ally - I feel you warm, relaxed, you KNOW you are safe and loved forever. Please visit dear Jenn - you now know how she loved you and what that love felt like. Please let her know you are okay, and living the best life you ever have.

    And that your best life ever on earth was with Jenn, whose faith and love and commitment you had 150%.

    Jenn - for what it is worth - the name "Amanda" means "worthy of being loved".

    Ally - eternal love. She is there.

    There are no words to thank you. I pray that you have peace in your heart some day.

    {{{{hugs}}}}
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    Jennie, please do not beat yourself up over this. You did everything you could and it was out of your hands.
    I know I can sit here and say this to you over and over again. I just hope you will someday know that it was the best thing and that Ally is now a happy kitty up there at the bridge.
    She will always hold a special place in your heart.
    HUGS to you!!!
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    {{{JL}}} Although I hate to read that Ally is gone, I must admit that there is a sense of relief that her suffering is over. Rest in peace, little Ally and frolic at the Rainbow Bridge.
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    Oh Jenn... you tried SO hard and you did everything you could. You should in NO way feel like you failed her. You gave her more of a chance than most people would have.

    Just as someone else said... Rest in PEACE means so much more saying it for Ally. She IS at peace now Jenn and it's because you helped her find it.
    {{hugs}}
    She is now at peace with everything, herself included.

    Rest easy now Ally, knowing that you are loved.

    You will always be Pet Talks biggest mystery that we were unable to solve.

    Run free sweet girl.
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    I've moved this to Pet Memorial. Jennie, you and everyone else did everything we possibly could for Ally. Now she is at peace.
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    I'm saddened to read that Ally is gone... I feared it might end this way, and yet I'm kind of relieved that Ally is at peace now. She was a tortured soul that probably would never have found any rest, not even as an only cat.

    I'm sure, Amanda, the vet tech, did what she could and gave her all her love, and whatever it was that made Ally act full of hate towards others came now to rest, and gave her peace.

    Jenn, please do not think you failed her, you did more for her than most people would have done. I'm sure she knew what you did for her, even if she couldn't show it. She may come back to you one day, and be the kitty she couldn't have been in her last life.

    R.I.P., Ally, rest finally in peace.
    You were loved by more people than you will ever know!

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