Kids die in hot car...

**sasvermont** · 07-02-2002, 06:34 AM

I can't think of a better way to help prevent this kind of thing from happening again and again, than to educate these people. Folks just don't understand it - or it seems that way, anyway.

My question is why didn't anyone else notice the children in the car?

In my town, we often call the authorities when we see a dog/pet or child in the car for an extended period of time. I suppose the car could have been in an isolated area, but somehow I don't think so.

The blame is strictly on the mother, but maybe someone else could have called the police. How very, very sad. I just don't get it and never will.

I think some people must have brain damage and should not be in a position to have children or pets.

But that's another story for another time. Its a free world, for the most part, and you get to do what you want to do, until you are found out!

Thank goodness the majority of people are responsible.

**Ann** · 07-02-2002, 06:43 AM

Sorry to have upset so many people with my post, I just felt that something like this should get out to so many people as possible, as to prevent things like this from happening.

If I ever saw an animal or human stuck in a hot car, I wouldn't call the police, I'd break the window and get them out. I couldn't care less if I ruin the car in the process or what.

If that woman had been a real mother in any way, she would have gone to the hospital with her kids no matter how dead they seemed. To have droven around like that for hours, trying to make up a story to get out of a punishment is the real sick thing here IMHO.

**DoggiesAreTheBest** · 07-02-2002, 06:47 AM

Ann, I don't think you upset anyone. I think the Pet Talkers are just expressing their disgust with the whole story.

I too wondered why no one had helped those lil kids. Surely someone must have seen them!

**sasvermont** · 07-02-2002, 07:11 AM

Ann, I truly appreciate your concern over these poor children. I don't, however, agree with your comment about breaking the window yourself. First of all, when you call the police, they will also call for rescue if you ask and the rescue people are far better at reviving a dying person than the average person. Secondly, the police are required to investigate the incident and will, in most cases, report the deed to the appropriate authorities, and in some cases have the children removed from that family/mother/father/guardian. I see what you mean, time is important, but I think, that unless you are in a remote area of the country, the police are better to call. I think it is important to keep in mind what happens after the child/pet is removed from the car. Also, here in the US, you can be sued for damaging someone's property. You can also go to jail for leaving a child in the car. All this has to come about as a result of calling the police first.

I hope this does not offend you, and I truly understand your concern and worry about getting to the child/pet in time. I too would try to open the door, but if it is locked, well, the police can get in much faster and better.

Thanks for the story and I hope it gives anyone/everyone pause so that they too can keep their eyes open to this problem and to help a child/pet in this situation.

Thanks Ann. (((((((((((((Ann))))))))))))))))))))

**lovemymaltese** · 07-02-2002, 02:05 PM

I heard about that, it is so aweful. Something similar happened last summer as well. Two men went fishing all day leaving their two small children buckled in their car seats while sitting in a non- airconditioned black car with the windows rolled up, parked in the sun. What are people thinking?

**mugsy** · 07-02-2002, 02:43 PM

I wondered too why no one did anything about it. I can't believe that people didn't walk by the car. And if I saw kids with their mouths to the window trying to get air I would break the window too!! Police called after the kids were safe. And if that moronic woman wants to sue me...go right ahead, but the money wouldn't do much good when her butt is rotting in jail.

Ann....you are a good person. Sasvermont...I do understand what you're saying too. People are just too stupid for words sometimes.

**Karen** · 07-02-2002, 05:37 PM

Remeber, Ann is in another country, and may have different expectation or experiences with response time.

If I had been there, I would have called 911 - told them the situation and place, and asked how soon they could get there. Then absolutely, if the children seemed desperate, I would have found a way into the car. I would have also screamed at the top of my lungs for anyone in the area to come help, and to see if they could find the mother. I would have tried all the doors, tried to pry down the window, and if all else failed, spoken to the older child to comfort and inform that help was on the way if he was conscious, told the little one to cover his eyes, and I would have broken the wiindow furthest away from the children, and at least gotten them out of the car into cooler air while the ambulance came.

But that's just me.

**Logan** · 07-02-2002, 05:54 PM

Well, this is such a terrible story, and I read today that the mother has been indicted on first degree murder charges, as she should be. I think we all interpret the story the same way.......we are all caring people, who can't conceive of anyone doing such a thing. It is a shame that two precious children lost their lives over such a stupid act by their mother.