Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[Puckstop31]

BTW... ES...

Nothing to say in the 2nd Amendment thread? Surely you can agree that the 2nd Amendment is at the heart of this discussion? As smart as you are, you should be able to rebut all of our arguements... right?

[RICHARD]

This story made me laugh.

http://www.dailynews.com/search/ci_1....dailynews.com


Look at the training this band of merry eff ups has and they cannot be trusted to carry guns. Now, If they are stupid when they carry sober, what makes you think that they can carry drunk?

The head of the SO is another moron by thinking his peeps waiting for such a long time to rescing their right to carry while drunk.

Out here there has always been a rivalry between local city cops, the SD, LAPD, and Highway Patrol. His little thing about the different agencies helping a DUI fellow officer is BS. Within thier own depts. they would coverup for an officer, but if an LAPD cop was pulled over by a HP, you can bet your arse they would put them in jail.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Facts....about children and guns....

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/f...f/children.pdf

[Puckstop31]

First... Surely you do not think the Brady Campaign has just a smidgen of bias?

Next, tell me how these "facts" you present make a case to remove from our citizens a fundamental, God given, 2nd Amendment affirmed RIGHT?

If is always the same with people like you... "Oh the children. We need to enslave you for the children... Don't you care about the children...."

How many kids you got ES? Would you rather them live a life of individual responsibility and freedom, with a little 'risk; or have them live a life in bondage to government, but "safe"?

No wonder the nation is the way it is today... So many people are willing to give up their rights, for a false sense of "security".

[Lady's Human]

Nice massaging (cherry picking) of the stats by the Brady center.

Since when did a 19 year old count as a "child"?

It also talks about the "firearm injury epidemic" (epidemic? yeah, right....) without giving one whit of data to reference it to.

[Desert Arabian]

Hell will freeze over before anyone tries to take my guns away from me!!

Auto mobile accidents are the number one killer of people under the age of 18- so should children not be allowed to ride in vehicles until the age of 19? We must keep the kids safe!!!!

[blue]

Auto mobile accidents are the number one killer of people under the age of 18- so should children not be allowed to ride in vehicles until the age of 19? We must keep the kids safe!!!!

Its for the CHILDREN!

Driving is a privlage that kills more per year in America then the Right to Keep and Bear Arms does.

When did a privilage become more important then a Right?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Auto mobile accidents are the number one killer of people under the age of 18- so should children not be allowed to ride in vehicles until the age of 19? We must keep the kids safe!!!!

Automobiles are designed to move people and goods from one place to another.

Guns, especially handguns, are designed to kill people.

[blue]

Guns, especially handguns, are designed to kill people.

Let me fix it for you.

Guns, especially handguns, are designed to protect people and property.

[caseysmom]

Fixed it for you.

I don't have strong feeling in this debate but doesn't that violate some rules on pettalk..editing a quote like that?

[Edwina's Secretary]

I agree. Very poor form. But then...

If an person is killed by an automobile, the inanimate object has failed in its purpose.

If a person is killed by a gun, the inanimate object has succeeded in its purpose.

What I try and figure out is what do these gun people do that they need the protection of firepower?

I grew up in the country. I lived in Chicago for over 20 years. I have visited every major city in the United States and many major cities around the world. Often alone and on business.

Never felt the need for the protection of a gun. Never felt the need to kill someone.

Either some folks are easily frightened or there are far more evil things running around this country than I know!

[Lady's Human]

If an person is killed by an automobile, the inanimate object has failed in its purpose.

If a person is killed by a gun, the inanimate object has succeeded in its purpose.

Not true. Both are dependent on the person using the inanimate object.

Guns are frequently used to save people from harm, and vehicles are frequently used in assaults.

[Karen]

Changing quoted text is confusing to casual readers, and is disrespectful to the original poster. You can disagree, but in the future, please post your comments without putting words into other people's mouth. People who just read the post quickly will believe that the person being quoted believes something they are completely opposed to.

Understand?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Not true. Both are dependent on the person using the inanimate object.

Guns are frequently used to save people from harm, and vehicles are frequently used in assaults.

Automobiles were not invented to kill people. Guns were. That was my point and remains my point. And is quite true!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Here you go: guns were invented to kill people:

http://www.blurtit.com/q993394.html