The 2004 presidential election.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by christa
LOLOLOL!!! Richard, are you serious!?!? That's too great! You're AWESOME!

You betcha.
I believe in supporting presidential candidiates.....

I would have send him more but I didn't want to use ALL the 500 dollar bills.

I used to have some GIANT fake money but I couldn't find it in time..

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I got tired of the mailings so I decided to support them in a different way.

Instead of protesting or bumperstickering my car I decided that it was a childish way to show how I felt ....


P.S.

It felt deliciously evil to lick the envelope closed and place it on the mail slot...

[DJFyrewolf36]

LOL I would pay good money to see the look from whoever opens that little tidbit of mail.

Better hope they don't send you a nastygram back, Richard...although if they do, I'd love to see it!

[mugsy]

Only you Richard!! You're funny. I hope the candidates have a sense of humor....nah....that would be asking too much.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Originally posted by RICHARD

I got a letter from John Kerry to make a contribution.

I stuffed the return envelope with some crisp new bills -
the best part is he paid for the postage.

I sent him 4,000 dollars.

Now I have to replace the Monopoly money from my
nephew's game before he finds out...

DANG-IT!!

Wish *I'd* thought of that -
before I tossed the envelope!

Idea, Richard!!

/s/ Phred
..

[RICHARD]

I heard an interesting stat about the 2000 election.


Florida was FIFTH in the number of states that threw out votes in '00...

That smells of a fix.......

[RICHARD]

New bumpersticker...

A pic of John and Tah Raise Ah together,and the caption....

"Cash" and Kerry in '04

[christa]

LOL

Maybe she's his secret weapon to cut the deficit!

[Logan]

That is a good one, Richard!!!

[mugsy]

Originally posted by RICHARD
New bumpersticker...

A pic of John and Tah Raise Ah together,and the caption....

"Cash" and Kerry in '04

You're so bad Richard!! lol I think you've missed your calling....you should write bumper stickers!! lol

[lizzielou742]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselection...8,00.html?=rss

Poll reveals world anger at Bush

Eight out of 10 countries favour Kerry for president

Alan Travis, home affairs editor
Friday October 15, 2004

George Bush has squandered a wealth of sympathy around the world towards America since September 11 with public opinion in 10 leading countries - including some of its closest allies - growing more hostile to the United States while he has been in office.

According to a survey, voters in eight out of the 10 countries, including Britain, want to see the Democrat challenger, John Kerry, defeat President Bush in next month's US presidential election.

The poll, conducted by 10 of the world's leading newspapers, including France's Le Monde, Japan's Asahi Shimbun, Canada's La Presse, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Guardian, also shows that on balance world opinion does not believe that the war in Iraq has made a positive contribution to the fight against terror.

The results show that in Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Japan, Spain and South Korea a majority of voters share a rejection of the Iraq invasion, contempt for the Bush administration, a growing hostility to the US and a not-too-strong endorsement of Mr Kerry. But they all make a clear distinction between this kind of anti-Americanism and expressing a dislike of American people. On average 68% of those polled say they have a favourable opinion of Americans.

The 10-country poll suggests that rarely has an American administration faced such isolation and lack of public support amongst its closest allies.

The only exceptions to this trend are the Israelis - who back Bush 2-1 over Kerry and see the US as their security umbrella - and the Russians who, despite their traditional anti-Americanism, recorded unexpectedly favourable attitudes towards the US in the survey conducted in the immediate aftermath of the Beslan tragedy.

The UK results of the poll conducted by ICM research for the Guardian reveal a growing disillusionment with the US amongst the British public, fuelled by a strong personal antipathy towards Mr Bush.

The ICM survey shows that if the British had a vote in the US presidential elections on November 2 they would vote 50% for Kerry and only 22% for Bush.

Sixty per cent of British voters say they don't like Bush, rising to a startling 77% among those under 25.

The rejection of Mr Bush is strongest in France where 72% say they would back Mr Kerry but it is also very strong in traditionally very pro-American South Korea, where fears of a pre-emptive US strike against North Korea have translated into 68% support for Mr Kerry.

In Britain the growth in anti-Americanism is not so marked as in France, Japan, Canada, South Korea or Spain where more than 60% say their view of the United States has deteriorated since September 11. But a sizeable and emerging minority - 45% - of British voters say their image of the US has got worse in the past three years and only 15% say it has improved.

There is a widespread agreement that America will remain the world's largest economic power.

This is underlined by the 73% of British voters who say that the US now wields an excessive influence on international affairs, a situation that 67% see as continuing for the foreseeable future.

A majority in Britain also believe that US democracy is no longer a model for others.

But perhaps a more startling finding from the Guardian/ICM poll is that a majority of British voters - 51% - say that they believe that American culture is threatening our own culture.

This is a fear shared by the Canadians, Mexicans and South Koreans, but it is more usually associated with the French than the British. Perhaps the endless television reruns of Friends and the Simpsons are beginning to take their toll.

· ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,008 adults aged 18 and over by telephone between September 22-23 2004. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults.

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I am being serious when I say as an American, reading stuff like this embarrasses me.

[Pam]

Originally posted by RICHARD
New bumpersticker...

A pic of John and Tah Raise Ah together,and the caption....

"Cash" and Kerry in '04

LOL! I just heard on GMA that Bush uses mustard on his hamburgers. I think they were trying to imply that he stays away from ketchup and pickles! LOL!

[tatsxxx11]

At least she puts her money where her mouth is. (Insert Richard's reply here....)
Teresa Heinz Kerry Philanthropist

And in case you choose not to read the article, believing perhaps that this recognition was awarded by a partisan, "left wing" group, Geroge Bush, the current president's father, was also awared the Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism

Disagaree with her politics, her outspokenness; dislike her "look," her hair, mock her accent...but is it necessary to relegate a woman of such accomplishment and compassion to terms such as "ketchup lady," and "pickle lady?" Interesting that not one person made note of the term that most people I know first associate with her...PHILANTHROPIST. Among the awards presented her for her philanthropy is the Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism, presented to her last year at Johns Hopkins.

When I think of Teresa Heinz Kerry, I see a highly educated woman, a devoted wife, a caring and loving mother who raised 3 fine, accomplished sons and helped to raise the Kerry daughters, again, 2 well spoken, accomplished, lovely young women.

Teresa Heinz Kerry was married to John Heniz, a REPUBLICAN senator from PA and heir to the Heinz fortune. When her husband of 25 years was tragically killed in a plane crash in 1991, just days after their anniversary, she was strongly urged by many on both sides of the aisle to run to fill his seat in the Senate, but declined, interested more in devoting her time to raising their sons and supporting the philanthropic causes her husband championed and so deeply cared about.

Some people may feel threatened by strong, outspoken women but I am not one of them! One of the most outspoken politicial wives in my memory, and most admired, is Barbara Bush. She speaks her mind on all issues with GREAT passion, (and sometimes spicy language) commenting on everything from politics, to family. She supports and defends her husband, her sons, her family and her views, loudly and clearly and without apology and I think that's great! Even G.W. Bush proudly admits that he gets the fiery/defensive qualities of his personality/speaking style, from his Mom!

Can't we elevate the political dialogue to a level above that of petty name calling? "Breck Girl," "Lurch," "Pickle Lady," "Cash;" "Shrub," etc. It's no wonder we've gotten to the point where we are unable to even begin to entertain a legitimate argument or point from the other side. It's just gotten too petty and too personal for my liking. I'd rather spend my time educating myself on the issues, familiarizing myself with the positions of the candidates, rather than vilifying them with impunity. It's strains credulity that any one side can claim that their candiate has all the answers, is without fault, while seeing absolutley nothing valid, worthy or commendable in the other. My comments are directed to both Democrats and Republicans.

With only a couple of weeks left before the election, I'd love to see us all participate in some real debate, taking an issue, with each poster, stating points she/he likes and dislikes about each candidate's stand...with no personal invectives. Anyone up to the challenge?

[jonza]

Originally posted by tatsxxx11
Can't we elevate the political dialogue to a level above that of petty name calling? "Breck Girl," "Lurch," "Pickle Lady," "Cash;" "Shrub," etc. It's no wonder we've gotten to the point where we are unable to even begin to entertain a legitimate argument or point from the other side. It's just gotten too petty and too personal for my liking. I'd rather spend my time educating myself on the issues, familiarizing myself with the positions of the candidates, rather than vilifying them with impunity. It's strains credulity that any one side can claim that their candiate has all the answers, is without fault, while seeing absolutley nothing valid, worthy or commendable in the other. My comments are directed to both Democrats and Republicans.
With only a couple of weeks left before the election, I'd love to see us all participate in some real debate, taking an issue with each poster, stating points she/he likes and dislikes about each candidates' stand...with no personal invective.

How nice to see a decent, intelligent comment at last, one that I can agree with 100%.
Thank you tatsxxx11, a breath of fresh air in a polluted political world!

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by tatsxxx11
With only a couple of weeks left before the election, I'd love to see us all participate in some real debate, taking an issue with each poster, stating points she/he likes and dislikes about each candidates' stand...with no personal invective. Anyone up to the challenge?

I guess I'll just have to delete this thread.

Debating politics is a sport unto itself.

I have fun with it. And while my comments are mostly slanted to one side, you can't take either one seriously.

I mean, you have a alleged coke user, draft dodger running against G.I. Joe, who can't shoot an M-79 grenade launcher without hurting himself....

The draft dodger is married to a woman who committed vehicular manslaughter and the other gal, Ms Tah Raise Ah married into money that she can give away because she didn't 'earn' it...

Unfortunately,

The guy who was cheating on his wife in the oval office can't stump for "Joe" because he had heart surgery. The second in command is under suspicion his old company is in bed with the current administration.

And that's just at the top!

Cah lee fuh nee ah has a foreign born governor, New Jersey's Gov is gay. and god knows what is happening in the other 48.

You couldn't get this type of a screen play from Hollywood.

I know who would play Don Rumsfeldt....Tim McCarver from Fox sports..........I was watching the game the other day and thought I saw Donny sitting in for the game.


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TRIVIA!

In the last 17 elections when the Washington Redskins LOSE the home game BEFORE the election the incumbent loses.

[tatsxxx11]

Richard wrote:

The draft dodger is married to a woman who committed vehicular manslaughter and the other gal, Ms Tah Raise Ah married into money that she can give away because she didn't 'earn' it...

I had a feeling you would say just that, Richard. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy political satire and humor as much as anyone. And all should be held accountable for their actions. But political satire should not to be confused with political sarcasm and uninformed commentary. I enjoy the fun side of political debate, but too often, these personal attacks, not being tempered by a bit of calm reflection and erudition, tends to morph into something more diabolical, devisive and destructive. How about some real dialogue interspersed with the humor?

Well, I guess she could have jumped for joy that finally, her husband was out of the picture and proceeded to pawn the kids off on a nanny and spent her time jet setting around the world, spending her husband's money frivously and selfishly. As the award commentary states, she gives most importantly, of herself. The Heinz Foundation exists and would continue to exist and the money entrusted to that foundation awarded regardless of Teresa Kerry's role or lack thereof. She chose to honor her husband's legacy by actively participating. And as has been reported in numerous articles (most recently in the Wall Street Journal) after her involvement, a much higher degree of accountability, scrutiny and descretion were applied to the dispensing of those grants and prizes. The Wall Sreet Journal described her philanthropic philosophy as "dispensed with tough love."

"She is willing to invest herself in these things she cares passionately about. She doesn't just give money; she gives of herself," said Jared L. Cohon, president of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, who nominated Heinz for the award. "I applaud her personal and passionate efforts, but I marvel at the way she also brings out the best in others. She is a catalyst of humanitarian acts."

By the way, I just managed to drop a good helping of boiling chili on my hand and am off to get some treatmetnt. Whoa, does that hurt...took off the skin! Anyway I'm off, so don't misinterpret a timely response to the reply I know is coming for taking my marbles and "going home." As your governor would say, "I'll be back!"